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December 4, 2006 at 20:27 #32425
I’d be careful there Mike ~ if there are any agents planted by "the man" to distract the willing punter away from the truth (and the truth will set you free, remember), it must be the Beulah Twins. Pure evil, brother.
Yeah, but what a way to go.
Mike
December 4, 2006 at 20:56 #32426Alan, I think that if you could post up a working result, as it happens and its proved beyond any statistical doubt that it happens, ther will be a hushed silence on here and your book will be a number one seller.
I don’t believe you or dis-believe you, just healthily open minded.
December 5, 2006 at 12:19 #32427Artemis (Dec. 3, 5:23pm, page 4),<br>The ‘Wired’ magazine ‘High Tech Trifecta’ (Dec. 3, 3:58pm, page 3) article (March 2002) is an insight into the massively untapped possibilities when number crunching meets racing data. The betting marketplace is now global and HK is an important location. Remember, the British cartel have a 20 year jump start on private computer teams trying to go head-to-head on not nearly the same level of RAW racing data; and certainly no real-time access to moneyflow or stakepoint (not mentioned in the book, reasons why follow soon).
Artemis writes:<br>“They do not have any prior knowledge of what is trying to win and what may not be ‘doing its best’.â€ÂÂ
December 5, 2006 at 12:35 #32428Has this thread gone past the sell by date?
Surely this rubbish should be binned?
December 5, 2006 at 12:51 #32429<br>Wallace,
That’s the thing about SPAM – thanks to those sealed tins, the sell by date is about a decade in the future!
I speak with authority as my old Mum fancied a tin last time I took her round Sainsburys. I was surprised to find it’s still available and the packaging hasn’t changed a bit, even down to the useless key to open the tin.
AP
December 5, 2006 at 13:11 #32430To call Frankie Dettori an "up and coming jockey" (prolouge P39 of the book) when at that stage in 1996 in the UK alone he had already won races such as the 2000 Guineas, Ascot Gold Cup, Fillies Mile, Golden Jubilee, International Stakes, King George and Queen Elizabeth, Nunthorpe, Oaks, Queen Anne, QEII, St Ledger, Sun Chariot, Sussex Stakes, Yorkshire Oaks, is frankly beyond belief and would already to my mind put the authors creditentials on the line.
To also state that the outcome of "every important football match" is known "before they even start" must then make Roy Keane, John Terry, and Jose Mourinho the greatest actors since time began.
There probably is some insight into how odds are compiled and distributed and for that alone the book may have some merit but the claims of its author who now must be a multi millionaire are frankly ridiculous.
Get him off!!
December 5, 2006 at 13:12 #32431AP,
For reasons I can’t disclose, I know from a previous existence that Hormel are very proud of their product, which comes in many more varieties than you’ll have seen in Sainsburys:
http://www.spamgift.com/ProductsList.aspx?CategoryId=32
you’ll see that all the tins featured are ring-pull, which suggests that anything with the old-style key could in fact be somewhat dated stock, maybe more down to the retailer than the manufacturer….ÂÂÂ
The exchange rate could make a direct-buy gift voucher for Christmas an attractive option…….;) ÂÂÂ
best regards
wit
(Edited by wit at 1:55 pm on Dec. 5, 2006)
December 5, 2006 at 15:00 #32432Cavelino Rampante writes (Dec. 5, 1:11pm, page 6):<br>“To call Frankie Dettori an "up and coming jockey" (prolouge P39 of the book) when at that stage in 1996 in the UK alone he had already won races such as the 2000 Guineas, Ascot Gold Cup, Fillies Mile, Golden Jubilee, International Stakes, King George and Queen Elizabeth, Nunthorpe, Oaks, Queen Anne, QEII, St Ledger, Sun Chariot, Sussex Stakes, Yorkshire Oaks, is frankly beyond belief and would already to my mind put the authors creditentials on the line.â€ÂÂ
December 5, 2006 at 15:09 #32433Quote: from AlanRidley on 3:00 pm on Dec. 5, 2006[br]the author does not recall more than a handful from memory alone.
Two things, just because ‘the author’ doesn’t recall that Dettori was already established as a top-class jockey doesn’t mean he wasn’t one. Secondly anyone that refers to themselves in the third person is a knob :biggrin:
December 5, 2006 at 15:46 #32434Clivex agrees with that
December 5, 2006 at 16:52 #32435Mr Ridley
I think it is put-up or shut-up time.
Using your ‘code’ will you be so good as to proof some selections to this board (any sport you like) preferably before the events have occurred.
I am basically accusing you of utter flatulance – now is the perfect opportunity to make me and other TRF members look fools.
Time to print the evidence my friend.
Mike
December 5, 2006 at 17:01 #32436Agreed betlarge .. post up the business or gtf !
December 5, 2006 at 17:12 #32437Starting with an "important" Champions League game tonight ….
December 5, 2006 at 19:05 #32438If Dettori was ‘up and coming’ then every housewife in Britain wouldn’t have known what the chap on the BBC News was on about that evening.
Neither would the bookies have been hammered by the punters. Dettori was already a firm favourite with the public before Royal Ascot.
I wish that I could make things not happen or not be by the simple device of not remembering things. Otherwise I wouldn’t be up before the beak for that inebriated sheep interference incident.
– Malc
December 5, 2006 at 20:34 #32439dave jay writes (Dec. 4, 8:56pm, page 5; see also Dec. 4, 5:06pm, page 5; Dec. 3, 8:44pm, page 4 and Dec. 3, 1:12pm, page 3):
“Alan, I think that if you could post up a working result, as it happens and its proved beyond any statistical doubt that it happens, ther will be a hushed silence on here and your book will be a number one seller.â€ÂÂ
December 5, 2006 at 20:49 #32440davidbrady asks Alan Ridley at about 10 to 9pm (just before he takes his Chinese out of the microwave):
Does the film "A Beautiful Mind" starring Russell Crowe have anything to do with you? Are you that mad mathematician?
December 5, 2006 at 21:53 #32441Alan, although some of the population here are bored with your musings and just consider those musing to be Spam, I will reserve judgement until the code is showed posted. I suppose you have made enough money yourself out of this information that you could give your book away for free?<br>:biggrin:
I think much of the cynisism here comes from the fact that many of the population are mathematicians of a sort themselves, computer programmers, bookies, engineers and the like.
I don’t know what Bacon and Herodotus would make of it all, they would perhaps be a bit dissappointed that the art had not evolved numbers.
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