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Afternoon all,
I’m interested in writing a piece for my university newspaper about professional gambling. I’m interested mainly in the stakes involved and the forms that the gambling takes, whether it’s online, on-course or in the shops. Gambling addiction interests me as well but I’m not planning it to be the main topic of the piece.
The difficulty I’m having, however, is getting hold of some professional gamblers and sitting them down or phoning them for a chat. Obviously these guys are very secretive and it’s difficult getting a hold of them. Does anyone have any advice on the best way to contact them, or on any organisations or groups that I could go to for advice and conversation? Is there any actively online, either on this website or on Twitter that I could speak to? I’m also based in Glasgow, so giving the article a Scottishness would also be of interest to me.
Thanks in advance for any help and advice.
Our very own
Hurdygurdyman
is the Professional Gambler on this forum ‘Tietam’,he’s also addicted to it so he would be a good source of information!
Gingertipster
has the potential to be a Professional Gambler but he’ll do your head in with his **** Percentage crap after 2 minutes!
I myself am the legendaryTAPK
who specialises in long range Ante-Post bets,I would consider myself a Semi-Professional Gambler who loses all year then wins a fortune at Cheltenham every year!
When I have the time I can make a whole £100 per day Laying horses to lose,no problem at all,99% (ginge) in running! Good Luck with your studies,any questions just Fire away and I’m sure someone on here will have the answer!Afternoon all,
I’m interested in writing a piece for my university newspaper about professional gambling. I’m interested mainly in the stakes involved and the forms that the gambling takes, whether it’s online, on-course or in the shops. Gambling addiction interests me as well but I’m not planning it to be the main topic of the piece.
The difficulty I’m having, however, is getting hold of some professional gamblers and sitting them down or phoning them for a chat. Obviously these guys are very secretive and it’s difficult getting a hold of them. Does anyone have any advice on the best way to contact them, or on any organisations or groups that I could go to for advice and conversation? Is there any actively online, either on this website or on Twitter that I could speak to? I’m also based in Glasgow, so giving the article a Scottishness would also be of interest to me.
Thanks in advance for any help and advice.
Don’t believe anything The Ante-Post King tells you Tietam, he’s a cowboy builder.
I’ll be officially a full time professional gambler before the year is out and probably before the end of this month Tietam. We’ve sold the van now so my carpet fitting days are severely numbered. Don’t know if I qualify. My threads in the Daily Lays And Plays section of this forum show a consistent profit. I don’t know if I’ll be successful, we’ll see.
However, like most "professional gamblers" I am reluctant to talk about "the stakes involved". Have you read pro gambler Dave Nevison’s books about his life? He said there are proffessional gambler millionaires and there are those living on a lavatory cleaner’s wage. Unfortunately I am of the latter variety (if that).
Come to that, what is a professional gambler? Are Dave Nevison and Eddie Freemantle still "professional" gamblers? When they now work for Racing TV stations and racing press. Suppose after a while having a regular definite income has its advantages.
With most racing happening in England I doubt if you’ll get many (if any) Scottish pro’s Tietam.
Pro punter Alan Potts (not to be confused with the Irish owner of Sizing Europe) used to be on this forum, he’s written books on gambling, "Against The Crowd" and "The Inside Track".
Over the jumps there’s John Noakes (is he still around?).
Value Is EverythingWith the rise in online poker playing I suspect that is where most new professional gamblers are concentrating their efforts. Poker has far less unpredictable factors and your opponents are, in theory, equal.
As rightly pointed out it is far easier to make money by laying horses than by backing them. Hence the existence of bookmakers.With the rise in online poker playing I suspect that is where most new professional gamblers are concentrating their efforts. Poker has far less unpredictable factors and your opponents are, in theory, equal.
As rightly pointed out it is far easier to make money by laying horses than by backing them. Hence the existence of bookmakers.Bookmakers work to a good over-round EF.
Over-rounds on exchanges are (for reasonable money) very small, so it’s just as easy for gamblers to make a profit by backing horses.
Value Is EverythingAs rightly pointed out it is far easier to make money by laying horses than by backing them. Hence the existence of bookmakers.
Well, it’s far easier to make money laying at 2.5% a runner yes. For the non-licensed Betfair layer it isn’t.
Mike
Don’t listen to TAPK I am certainly not a professional gambler I’m a builder the same as him who has the occasional large bet on top class horses that most punters with a good eye could find (If they had may talent
) Nowadays I spend most of my time trying different methods of making a profit with very little risk of losing large sums of money while waiting for the right horse in the right game.I have come across a couple of would be professional gamblers who claimed to be successful but talking to people who worked in the industry for big firms like Hills it turned out they had hocked just about everything they owned and were all front.
Plenty mad punters out there people regard as pro punters. Even know one from your home town a certain Mr H O’D but we shared the same course bookie for a while and while he’s extremely rich I assure you he’s far from professional.
Now Andydod is the man you really want to get in touch with all you have to do is read his post to realize this guy gambles everyday……with his life. He must be a professional as he;s still alive
Gingertipster
has the potential to be a Professional Gambler but he’ll do your head in with his **** Percentage crap after 2 minutes!
It may be boring for most people Gord…
But every professional gambler knows the importance of percentages. Those ignoring percentages have very little chance of showing a profit, unlesslucky
enough to pick one or two massive winners, which pay for their losses…
If continuing to gamble in the same way… "luck" will eventually run out.Where as professional gamblers do not trust to "luck".
Value Is EverythingGingertipster
has the potential to be a Professional Gambler but he’ll do your head in with his **** Percentage crap after 2 minutes!
It may be boring for most people Gord…
But every professional gambler knows the importance of percentages. Those ignoring percentages have very little chance of showing a profit, unlesslucky
enough to pick one or two massive winners, which pay for their losses…
If continuing to gamble in the same way… "luck" will eventually run out.Where as professional gamblers do not trust to "luck".
Well just let me correct you there Smartypants! It doesn’t matter how Professional you are regarding ‘Horseracing’,..(Cards are a different ballgame all together), LUCK is a massive factor and I could argue in your stupid percentage terms that its importance is 100%!! I’ll put it to you that
Nathaniel
missing this years Arc is 100% BAD LUCK,so its irrelevant that I was sitting on some tasty 20/1 vouchers,thats the price of Ante-Post betting and I can live with it!
Toss the coin over and my 42’s onWorkforce
winning the same race a couple of years ago had lady LUCK smiling down on me,some might say I was ‘lucky’ getting all those fancy prices,I’ll argue its foresight,some might say I was ‘lucky’ he even ran,yes they would have a point and again others could say I was ‘lucky’ he got up having not the easiest of passages,I say I knew he was the best horse in the race,he had scope,he had the form,he had the right connections and he’d handle the ground if all those things came together he’d win but for all those things to Gel you need LUCK and you will need it every time you have a bet,every time Ginge and dont forget it!
Here endeth the 1st lesson of being a Professional Gambler!As you well know Gord, the likelyhood of a horse running in any ante-post race is factored in to all prices, including Nathaniel and Workforce. So although any INDIVIDUAL horse not running may be thought "unlucky" –
punters can not blame "luck" for not showing an OVER ALL PROFIT!
For you to think professional gamblers rely on luck is foolhardy.
Value Is EverythingIf either of you had a clue what you were talking about you’d be a successful professional gambler and neither of you are so stop blowing your know it all trumpets and shut it.
Should be a rule on here that anyone who says they are making big money post a video of their account/s and prove it or Hawdyerwheesht
Fist is in a foul mood
If either of you had a clue what you were talking about you’d be a successful professional gambler and neither of you are so stop blowing your know it all trumpets and shut it.
Should be a rule on here that anyone who says they are making big money post a video of their account/s and prove it or Hawdyerwheesht
Fist is in a foul mood
You’re a builder Fist, you’re bound to be in a foul mood!
Betting has been my main sourse of income for some time. It’s up to you if you choose not to believe me. I am not going to show you my accounts. Nobody in their right mind is going to do that.
My threads show a consistent profit, judge me on those.
Value Is EverythingTietam,
I manage a horse racing advisory service and we employ 2 professional punters as our tipsters. Toby covers the flat and Aidan covers the National Hunt for us.
Feel free to email me any questions, and I would be more than happy to forward them on to the guys for you. Alternatively feel free to give me a call. My contact details are on the website at theinsidetrack.info
With the rise in online poker playing I suspect that is where most new professional gamblers are concentrating their efforts. Poker has far less unpredictable factors and your opponents are, in theory, equal.
As rightly pointed out it is far easier to make money by laying horses than by backing them. Hence the existence of bookmakers.Poker is currently my main source of income, and in the future, i hope to be able to make a solid and comfortable living from it.
Poker and horse racing have some similarities gambling wise. In poker, you make decisions based upon how your hand relates to the board texture, and how your opponents tendancies and actions relate to that board texture and the perception of your hand range. You make the most complete decision you can. However, usually, the opponent will have equity (Unless hand reaches river and we are not all in). The particular variant of the game i play will often see constant all in’s with hand equities playing 60/40 against each other on a regular basis throughout any given session. The best pre-flop hand in this game all in pre-flop sometimes only has a 10-15% equity edge. So poker is a very unpredictable game, a game where is skill is required very much so, but luck still dictates that skill. Variables that are uncontrollable.
It’s a game of very high variance, and it is plausible to have several months of losing (Despite expected value all in profit) inspite of an obvious skill advantage over what remains a rather poor and uneducated pool of players.
I cannot say what it is like to gamble on horse racing as a profession. Unfortunately i am not astute enough to even begin to contemplate such an idea. I can say however, that Poker gambling is very much a mental game. In a vacuum, skill wins, but due to the unpredictability of the game, you require various mental strengths and abilities to win over a long-period of time. Thus in a sense, it’s no different to many sporting talents ; raw ability only takes you so far, attitude/dedication is what sets the best apart from the rest.
Gingertipster makes me laugh with his percentiles. If only he knew the tortute a Pot limit omaha player has with percentiles!
Gingertipster makes me laugh with his percentiles. If only he knew the tortute a Pot limit omaha player has with percentiles!
I don’t score weed or come from Nebraska.
Value Is Everything
I myself am the legendary
When I have the time I can make a whole £100 per day Laying horses to lose,no problem at all,99% (ginge) in running! Good Luck with your studies,any questions just Fire away and I’m sure someone on here will have the answer!
Toss the coin over and my 42’s on
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