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  • #1665000
    LD73
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    Looking at the pictures at Longchamp on SSR, I think he means that the rails had been moved out 9m so the 8m inside of that have remained unused since 14 July.

    Re the time, Trueshan went a sensible gallop from the start (without looking to be going too mad) and so that final time is probably as close to genuine good ground as you will get (so the good to soft in French terms seem accurate for them) and with the continuing sunshine and drying day, you might even get the odd good to firm spots in it tomorrow if they leave it alone.

    I seriously doubt that had the Cadran been run tomorrow that Trueshan would have even started – he didn’t look to be fully comfortable on that ground but there was probably just enough juice in it to take out any sting that a horse with his high knee action might find.

    Ground wise, unless you are riding a horse that needs it extreme either way, there should be no excuses for anyone on the account of the ground tomorrow.

    #1665009
    ham
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    Just seen the stick reading of 8.8 which is g/f, the times are always shocking but there suggesting good, on course its being described as fast

    Harder to work this out than it is the race

    #1665016
    LD73
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    You ain’t wrong there

    #1665048
    All Jeff
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    Through Seven Seas at 12-1 is my shout here, but I agree, it’s a real puzzle this year

    #1665086
    buckers
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    Through Seven Seas 11-1 + Onesto 28-1 for me

    #1665097
    Avatar photosporting sam
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    Ace impact ( win)is unbeaten and that has to be the starting point of interest.
    High enough draw for one so young.
    Through Seven Seas
    Each way
    Has a nice low draw. While it is disappointing not to see a Japanese jockey on board, he must have a huge chance as horses finishing in the mere flatulence slipstream of Equinox have routinely franked the form this year.
    The frenzied Nippon hordes will likely smash the Paris mutual into tote £1 better than SP odds proportions.
    Talking of trapped wind, (and I wasn’t) Frankie Dettori’s last ride in the Arc before he comes out of retirement next year to ride in the Arc (and the Breeders cup) is on Free wind (each way).

    #1665105
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    Place du Carrousel for me.

    She won the Prix de l’Opera last year, flying home to beat Nashwa. The ground wasn’t slow on trials day so she should be OK on it and although the Prix Foy was slowly run I think she’ll get strongly a run 12f. The Lope de Vegas are a mixed bag stamina wise but her dam, the amusingly-named Traffic Jam, won a G2 over the trip and was fairly stoutly bred, being by Duke of Marmalade (jam, geddit?) out of a Sadler’s Wells mare named Place de l’Etoile. I assume that’s where the “Traffic” bit of the name came from- the Place de l’Etoile is the old name for a large junction in Paris in the middle of which sits… the Arc de Triomphe :-)

    Well, the best known one. Wikipedia tells me that the famous one is the Arc de Triomphe de l’Étoile. Place du Carrousel – once used for equine demonstrations- has its own Arc de Triomphe apparently. Well, I hope she will :good:

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    I’ve backed Westover and Continuous.
    (saver on Through Seven Seas)

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    Avatar photoWilts
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    With so many Q marks, for various reasons, against most of ’em i’ve plumped for
    Feed The Flame 11s
    but with a 25% boost on that price.

    A bet, for interest really, as i will watch the race.
    Best of luck to all :good:

    #1665119
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    Westover.

    The things I want most in life are the things that I can't win.

    #1665121
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    I’ll stick with Fantastic Moon 17/2 as my win selection. May be getting a little quick now but, whatever the ground, Mr Hollywood 66/1 e/w 4 places looks overpriced coming out of a close second in a race which has been a pointer to this before.

    #1665122
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    Can’t remember a more open Arc. Gone for Simca Mille 25-1 EW for a bit of interest

    #1665123
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    Soumillon said yesterday they are going to ride Feed The Flame more prominently to make use of his draw.

    Do wonder whether thaere’s been quite a lot of talk of a possible lack of pace too – many potential hold up horses may want a closer position… And as such the pace may be faster than what might be taken from all the horses current run styles.

    Also,

    Although there aren’t many prominent running horses in the race; it will not be in Westover or Continuous’s interests to make it a slowly run affair. So I suspect the pace will be at least reasonable.
    Surprised Coolmore didn’t run two though, just to make sure.

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    #1665136
    ham
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    Was considering adding westover but ill stick with my two of TSS & onesto e/w

    Heavily laying ace impact currently

    Wide open, the to finish in markets are littered with value, you can get 3s on ace impact to finish in the top two, if your taking the 5/2-11/4 that has to be of interest

    Plenty others a cracking price in the top 5

    Cone take my money :yahoo:

    #1665142
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    In on the Japanese horse , strong form and good draw , e.w bay bridge is a autumn horse and again a cracking draw , I hope continuous runs a big race but I just think he’ll get tapped for a bit of ties on the ground

    #1665150
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    Will they even run bay bridge?

    Seeing how quick the ground is and knowing he likes cut I’d be pulling him out and saving him for ascot if he was mine

    #1665153
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    Here in Japan, Through Seven Seas is the sixth favorite in most exotic bets which should tell you that the betting public doesn’t really fancy her chances.

    Westover is favored here over Hukum which I think makes sense but still a little surprising. Age is a factor of course but does Hukum really need soft ground?

    Bay Bridge is 50 to 1 here but every second punter over there seems to be touting him. He’s an ‘autumn’ horse? It’s hardly persuasive. And doesn’t he need soft ground too?

    Ace Impact is the favorite here followed by Westover, Feed the Flame and Fantastic Moon. I’ll play those in trios and trifectas and also toss in Hukum and Place Du Carousel.

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