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Zarkava was mightily impressive again in the Vermeille but I’m still thinking she’s a bit short for the Arc. When you look at her bare form she hasn’t beaten any colts or any older horses. She could be anything and is clearly a top class filly but have Duke Of Marmalade and Soldier Of Fortune not got overall better form? You could argue that point with regards to New Approach and Youmzain as well.
2/1 and below for a filly that still has to step up on bare form for a race like the Arc is not something to get me over excited.
They both do.
Her price reflects the way she wins her races and by extension, the way she would race against the colts, not necessarily her form, which is a dangerous way of betting.
She was very impressive yesterday no doubt about it,but so was the owners other good filly shawanda,and she could finish no better than midfield.This filly has a very tough task to win the arc and i doubt very much if she will do it.
Of course the Arc will prove a tougher race to win than the Vermeille, but considering Zarkava gave the other fillies ten lengths of a start and the subsequent manner of her victory, I would suggest that the other runners in the Arc have more to fear from her than she does from them.
She exudes class.
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IMHO, Zarkava was EXTRAORDINARY yesterday. She put up an astonishing performance in a very fast run race, after being out of the competition for a little bit more than three months.
She deserves all the credit to be well supported in the Arc, but 6-4 might be too low.
I’ll stick to my guns, and put even a little bit more money into the exactas NA-Zarkava, NA-VDE, and Zarkava-VDE.I think she has to be opposed at the price she is now- her stalls antics alone make her no value at 2/1. I backed Vision d’Etat after the Niel at 12/1- that’s much better value IMO. (You were right Bully!)
Vision D’etat and New Approach are now very very backable in this and I wouldn’t back Zarkava until I knew what the ground was going to be.
She is possibly the best horse in the race but if the ground comes up soft, which it often does, she will struggle I think. She certainly won’t be able to give them ten lengths!
Vision D’etat and New Approach are now very very backable in this and I wouldn’t back Zarkava until I knew what the ground was going to be.
She is possibly the best horse in the race but if the ground comes up soft, which it often does, she will struggle I think. She certainly won’t be able to give them ten lengths!
I’d be more worried if it came up firmer.
Her form shows 2 wins at G/S, 1 on heavy and 3 on good.
Big news coming out of AOB’s yard today that Septimus is being considered as a serious challenger for AOB’s Arc squad.
Would make sense if the Duke is to go to Great Leighs the week before and nothing else other than SOF looking up to scratch.
Could Septimus be a serious contender to be crowned Arc champion?
If the ground were bottomless, yes. On good or better, no. Is it a better option than Melbourne? Yes.
50/1 for a runner that looks to be going to the Arc. as I cant see the quarantine issues for the Melbourne being relaxed, was too good to turn down just as the news was leaking – albeit just for a fivers worth.
Now 29/1 on BF
Septimus will run in the Melbourne Cup, this is just O’Brien keeping everything in the melting pot. The quaranteen issues will be sorted out. Solder Of Fortune will be their main contender.
Septimus will run in the Melbourne Cup, this is just O’Brien keeping everything in the melting pot. The quaranteen issues will be sorted out. Solder Of Fortune will be their main contender.
I certainly hope he does run in Melbourne as I have already got him on antepost for that but I’m just covering my back just incase by some chance he does go to Longchamp instead
What’s wrong Salselon? You seem to be interrogating me.
As far as I am aware, the Aga Khan would retire Zarkava post-Arc. But you know – that’s what opinions are for. Neither right nor wrong.
Lay off, will you?
She was very impressive yesterday no doubt about it,but so was the owners other good filly shawanda,and she could finish no better than midfield.This filly has a very tough task to win the arc and i doubt very much if she will do it.
I believe Shawanda injured her pelvis in the Arc. Was then bought by Godolphin, and never raced again.
So hard to know for sure just how good she could have been against the colts.
I think she has to be opposed at the price she is now- her stalls antics alone make her no value at 2/1. I backed Vision d’Etat after the Niel at 12/1- that’s much better value IMO. (You were right Bully!)
Had to get one of these right sometime Carvs, just by laws of probability, lets just hope he does the business on the big day. Ive got the two main players I want to be on now for the Arc in New Approach and Vision D’Etat, so am happy with them.
As the race keeps unfolding it looks more and more like there will be plenty of pace on the day. AOB now talking of running Septimus, I’d say there is more method than madness in that decision. If due to run 50-1 wouldnt be a bad price but then again, would he be there to set the race up for SOF, it would probably be better to wait and see what emerges closer to the time, regarding AOBs running plans, if it was just Septimus and SOF I would stay well clear.
Due to there not really being any 1m4f races run over the season that have been seriously testing there should be a few decent longshot e/w prices. Id be looking for something that can do 1m6f but is capable of getting competetive in the top class at 1m4f (none of those sorts have had their conditions at 1m4f this season so they will be completely overlooked). Stoutes horse Ask is 33-1 which isnt bad if he is due to run, but think the e/w market is one to save for closer the time, looking at definite runners.
An exciting race in prospect..
MDeering,
Don’t be so sensitive. If you are going to post ‘facts’ that are incorrect, you should expect to have these challenged.
The Aga Khan has no policy, as you stated, of retiring his horses at 3; it very much seems to depend on their individual circumstances.
For example, Azamour raced at 4 even though he had won the St James Palace Stakes and Irish Champion Stakes. Darjina also raced at 4 even though she had won the Prix Moulin against the colts and finished placed in the Hong Kong Mile.
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