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I admit my mistake regarding Sakhee but my comments still apply – Why can Cape Blanco not win?
His amount of runs seem to match a lot of winners. If its the wrong races, i’d like to hear Euros races which are a no-no for an Arc win. I’ll be suprised if you can find one.
The King George has been a gravesite for many Arc hopes over the year. Yes, Dylan did it a few years back, but the 3 before him were Lammtarra, Dancing Brave and Mill Reef.
Montjeu, Hurricane Run, Conduit, Duke of Marmalade, Daylami, Swain and Pentire all won at Ascot and were subsequently unplaced at Longchamp.
And don’t get me started on the abysmal record of Dante runners…
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After watching the end of the Grand Prix Paris a number of times recently I’m am (like others) sure the form will be reversed. I’m gonna keep the bet on Workforce in the hope he’ll turn up on his game.
I admit my mistake regarding Sakhee but my comments still apply – Why can Cape Blanco not win?
His amount of runs seem to match a lot of winners. If its the wrong races, i’d like to hear Euros races which are a no-no for an Arc win. I’ll be suprised if you can find one.
King George
St LegerThe KG/Arc double is possible as Zarkava pointed out, but you need either a true legend (Dancing Brave, Mill Reef) an exceptionally tough horse (Dylan) or one that has a unusually few runs (Lammtarra)
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My worry with Workforce Phil is the politics behind running him and the fact SMS won’t run him unless he’s 110% right. You can make excuses once but oif he flops again his already damaged shed value could fall through the floor.
I beleive they were trying to strike a deal with a stud that would allow him to run as a 4yo which should give you an idea what SMS has in mind. If there’s no deal struck I doubt if they will risk him/his rep in the Arc and it’s more likely we won’t see him until next season.
A month before the Derby he was all the rage in gallop reports but with less than a month to go to the Arc there hasn’t been a whisper. Unless someone knows something different the last I heard is he wasn’t doing any fast work. Hardy fills my boots with confidence.
The again getting info out of that yard is like drawing teeth but if nothing positive comes to light in the next fortnight I reckon he’ll drift like a barge.
I admit my mistake regarding Sakhee but my comments still apply – Why can Cape Blanco not win?
His amount of runs seem to match a lot of winners. If its the wrong races, i’d like to hear Euros races which are a no-no for an Arc win. I’ll be suprised if you can find one.
King George
St LegerThe KG/Arc double is possible as Zarkava pointed out, but you need either a true legend (Dancing Brave, Mill Reef) an exceptionally tough horse (Dylan) or one that has a unusually few runs (Lammtarra)
I’m not sure i’d elevate Dylan Thomas to "exceptionally tough". I think that just suits your arguement to promote him as one. I don’t think its a particularly stong rule to be honest, and i certainly wouldn’t completely write off Cape Blanco as you have done on the strength of it. I think its a reflection of the decline of the King George as much as anything, rather than some incredible physical revelation that running at Ascot ruins a horses chance of running to form a few months later.
I’m completely writing Cape Blanco off because he simply isn’t good enough.
Behkabad and Planteur have better form over 12f, have had a better prep and have more scope for improvement. Cape Blanco should be 25s.
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And don’t get me started on the abysmal record of Dante runners…
Zarkava you had Cape Blanco written off as a stable lesser light from the moment he was entered in the Dante. Try and assess individuals on their own merit rather than on some historical statistical basis. Your namesake had to overcome a lot of the history you often cite.
That said I firmly believe Cape Blanco is no Arc horse. I fully expect to see him on Breeders day.
I think we can close the Planteur book now. Behkabad definitely has his measure. I feel sorry for those that took long odds on in running about Planteur today.
I think we can close the Planteur book now. Behkabad definitely has his measure. I feel sorry for those that took long odds on in running about Planteur today.
I bet your one of those who never thought Raven’s Pass would beat Henry….. If Planteur is ridden like that in the Arc I’d agree with you but he’s a turn of foot horse who will be held up. Today’s race was just a nice workout.
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I bet your one of those who never thought Raven’s Pass would beat Henry
Nope I liked both horses. Different kettle of fish. Their rivalry has nothing to do with the chances of Planteur in the Arc. I’ve simply stuck my neck out in this thread saying Planteur cannot win the Arc and I’m pretty happy with my position.
Well i never saw anything to trouble
Workforce
today in the Arc trials in Paris,i expected Planteur to close the gap on Bekhabad and i still think he will finish in front of him in the Arc,even so there is not a lot between them! Workforce will laugh at the pair of them!
Fame and Glory
is still my main danger!
There is no hope of Cape Blanco running in the Arc, so discussion about his price is a waste of time. From today’s trial I cannot see anything beat Behkabad, despite the proximity of Planteur. His price on betfair at the moment is generous to say the least.
As for Workforce, I doubt he will turn up.
JohnJ
Gutted Sariska won’t run, she would have done so well. My 2 ante post wagers in this were dar re mi and sariska, how’s that for tipping?
Behkabad easily the best trial on stats, and even if Midday has the talent to close someone like him down she won’t be there in the Arc anyway and she was only there to nab another G1, I feel Behkabad is probably a certain placer ashe has pretty much replicated past Niel winning efforts efforts but if Workforce is at his best he beats Behkabad easily.
The Foy was a complete waste of time imo if you see it as a trial, such a slow time.
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