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  • #370960
    Jonibake
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    Whenever BB puts a 8) next to a horse you can be sure of one thing – :cry:

    "this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"

    #370972
    Avatar photoBig Bucks
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    Eton Rifles (10/1) got that treatment 8)

    Bated Breath didn’t read the script :lol:

    #370978
    darren83
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    Am on Galikova at 25/1 so lets hope BB is right :D

    #370994
    Avatar photoHurdygurdyman
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    With the Derby winner retired it looks wide open.

    Can’t see Workforce winning again looks abetter race this year.

    Only way So You Think will run is if AOB loses his mind. That extra 2 furlong at a strong pace would blunt his speed so much a place is all they could hope for at best IMO.

    I reckon the fact Nathanial 1st time out ran Frankel to a head makes people doubt him in a way. Sort of a case "He can’t be that good" if you follow my drift.

    It’s all a bit of a guessing game but I reckon Nathanial is a much better animal than anything else around and will pi$$ up in the Arc.

    Should be half his current odds IMO.

    #371005
    Eclipse First
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    So You Think an intended runner in the Arc, given suitable ground.

    I presume it would need to be no worse than good. He certainly wouldn’t have anything to fear from this side of the channel if allowed to take his chance.

    Fely, what are you doing?

    #371026
    andyod
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    fely, please stop.

    #19638
    andyod
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    Will Shamie Heffernan keep the ride on SYT in the Arc?I would wish for Kieren Fallon to ride the horse.Who is the best available jockey for this race? I believe Tabor likes Fallon.He rode the last winner for them. But Kieren don’t like the drug testing in France.

    #371108
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    Having won on him in the Eclipse and Irish Champion, I would be surprised if they jocked Seamie off.

    #371130
    trapper john
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    i hope heffernan keeps the ride

    #371134
    andyod
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    Just so long as he gets a group 1 ride.Although he is so good he might win with a group 2 ride.

    #371149
    Coggy
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    It would be a travesty if Heffernan did not keep the ride.
    No jockey has anything to fear from the drug testing regime in France unless they have done anything to transgress the rules

    #371168
    Presto
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    It’s terribly exciting that So You Think is now to run
    I’ve heard some in the news knock the strength of this year’s Arc but the last few editions have been anything but strong either. Youmzain ran 2nd three times with mostly average horses (at the distance) filling the places behind him.

    I’d argue that Sarafina has slightly better credentials than Workforce, although she has a few more pounds to lump, and of course she needs a bit more luck in running.

    On his form down under So You Think will stay no problem, but I’m around 80% to 90% confident rather than 100%. I’m more worried about him overracing over 1m4f as he’s shown a tendency to do that. He looked to be idling (something Snow Fairy’s trainer acknowledged may have been the case) in the Irish Champion; inside the 2f Frankie went for Snow Fairy and she quickly surged up going from 1.5 lengths down to a neck within SYT, but never got closer to the line.

    It was SYT’s first run in 2 months so he should improve on that a little bit. In his Workforce run SYT seemed to strike a bad patch of ground which halted his momentum and made the win look harder than it was.

    #371187
    moehat
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    Could So You Think still be ‘acclimatising’ over here and will be a better horse next year if he stays in training? There was a horse whose name escapes me that ran well at Cheltenham the other year and the trainer said it took him a while to find his feet here, and that was only coming from across the channel. Either way, I’m chuffed that he’s running as I’ll get to see him!

    #371205
    andyod
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    Would you stay loyal to a jockey if a better one was available for a once in a lifetime race?Was Mrs Hill wrong to put JJ up on Dawn Run in the Gold Cup? Should she have stayed loyal to Tony Mullins? Watch the final two jumps and the run to the finish before deciding.I believe she was proven right.

    #371217
    Avatar photothehorsesmouth
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    Who better to ride the horse than the man who knows him :?:

    #371218
    andyod
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    Of course, have the stable lads ride all the runners.Forget the world class jockeys.What do they know.

    #371219
    andyod
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    Coolmore never back away from a challenge. They need to find out just what their horses are made of.

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