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Hope he is okay, but how many falls on his head/neck do they expect him to survive??? Clearly a very poor jumper even over hurdles.
Winner was cantering after jumping the last and still drew clear ahead of two horses that battled out 2nd place.
How many falls on his head/neck do they expect him to survive???
I very much doubt they run expecting himself to faceplant himself. Showed a lot more today than on his previous two starts which was encouraging. Hopefully he’s alright.
I think you would have to give him another chance after today but if it happened again I would very much be thinking that something was wrong.
He hasn’t been the same horse since falling at Cheltenham last year.
Wish him well.Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...He will be very hesitant at his flights next time out. Thats for sure…. Animals are not stupid and especially after a broken jaw last year and also after today’s tumble he will be a lot smarter than we think. I know that they aren’t expecting him to fall on his neck and no one is doing this on purpose, but you have to ask yourself whether jumping is his true discipline.
You love a bit of after-timing, RL.
Very unlucky for Briar Hill though. It looked like he was getting there and you’ve got to hope his confidence hasn’t been rocked again.
Both Walsh and Briar Hill got up ok.
I’m not sure if Briar Hill would of won or not but he was certainly looking as if he’s was going to put up a challenge, it didn’t help having to switch the horse and I’ve only seen it once so cant remember how close to the hurdle they were when Ruby gave him some light. I don’t think he’s a bad jumper at all and he looked pretty slick at most of them and when he came down it was more the way he landed then anything else.Blackbeard to conquer the World
Ive said it before, and I’ll say it again….hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Glad he got up ok.
Hope he is okay, but how many falls on his head/neck do they expect him to survive??? Clearly a very poor jumper even over hurdles.
What the …. does that mean?!
How many falls has Briar Hill had before today? Answer 1.
Judging by Racing Post in running comments – the horse had made just one mistake in three races (including this race) between those falls; so clearly NOT the "very poor jumper" you make out Rubylight!Briar Hill was showing a return to form today prior to the fall, with a good chance of either winning or a close second in a grade 2 hurdle. Yet you, in your infinite wisdom imply "they" should’ve known Briar Hill was going to fall.
But hey, why let facts get in the way of portraying trainers as cruel?
Value Is EverythingNo, he is a VERY POOR JUMPER !!! FACT
Apart from his maiden hurdle win in which he started at 1/9 he faced one opponent in his next race and made mistakes and he faced two oppnonents in the race after where he also lacked fluency.
Then came the race at Cheltenham where he fell and broke his jaw. After that he was stone last next time out that because of not too fluent jumping and then he finished 4th in a five runners race. In his very next start, today, he fell again. So how can a normal brain think that this horse is a good jumper????
Making mistakes in Mickey Mouse races, falling twice on his neck and bein tailed off on two other occasions?
You call that good for a Willie Mullins trained horse? Are you trying to say that there is no further improvement in a seven year old and that this is the best he can jump????
WOW
By the way, I didn’t expect him to fall today and I never blamed anyone for his fall. But one can raise the question how many "lives" a NH horse can have?
Look at the fatalities in Ireland: They race 3-4 times a week over the jumps and yet the number of serious injuries and fatalities seems (NO, IT IS) a lot higher than in Britain. Tight bends, very poor underground conditions and average animals would explain a lot. So I’m not blaming the trainers, but the idiots who run the show like it used to be run 50 years ago.Look at the fatalities in Ireland: They race 3-4 times a week over the jumps and yet the number of serious injuries and fatalities seems (NO, IT IS) a lot higher than in Britain. Tight bends, very poor underground conditions and average animals would explain a lot. So I’m not blaming the trainers, but the idiots who run the show like it used to be run 50 years ago.
Could you provide some stats on this issue RL?
The idiots that run the show in Ireland seem far less adept at shooting themselves in the foot than their British counterparts.
1st January: All Honours
2nd January: Emiest Rose (DUNDALK)
4th January: Lethal Weapon
9th January: Chief Suspect (DUNDALK)
10th January: Dazzlers Day
17th January: Tiny Toffee
17th January: Social Riser
24th January: Scolboa Rock
25th January: Sitcom
31st January: Laurel Park
8th February: Le Vent D’AntanThat is eleven horses we are 100% certain about in just five weeks.
But let’s not forget that the Irish race only about 5-6 times a week. This isn’t a normal number if you really care about the sport and if you really love and respect animals.
We are not talking about point-to-point deaths or horses killed on the gallops or horses that are put down at a later stage due to injuries suffered on the racecourse.By the way, I didn’t expect him to fall today and I never blamed anyone for his fall. But one can raise the question how many “lives” a NH horse can have?
But that was not the question you asked.
If you are not blaming anyone then who are “they”?
Your explanation does not make sense.Hope he is okay, but how many falls on his head/neck do they expect him to survive??? Clearly a very poor jumper even over hurdles.
I am not saying Briar Hill is a good jumper Rubylight, it is you who is saying he is a “Very Poor jumper”.
When Briar Hill was a novice he jumped ummmmm, novicey… making some mistakes, as novices generally do.
Briar Hill made only one noticable mistake on 28th December (two out). Judge for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSgtZsReu84Finishing last not “because of not too fluent jumping”, but because of needing a first start in 9 1/2 months.
Did not seem to make any mistakes on 22nd Jan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27IiAd0bYhwIf Briar Hill is a “very poor jumper”, then half the horses in the country are very poor jumpers.
Value Is EverythingKauto Star was a bloody awful jumper, got remounted at Exeter, Nicholls should of retired him then not to mention those last fences at Kempton he walked through and that terrible jump in the betfair letting that no hoper Snoopy Loopy win and that one at Cheltenham when Kauto and Ruby went sliding along the deck. Even in easy races he made slight mistakes and hit a few twigs out of place how he ever won 8 King Georges and 4 Gold Cups is beyond belief.
Blackbeard to conquer the World
1st January: All Honours
2nd January: Emiest Rose (DUNDALK)
4th January: Lethal Weapon
9th January: Chief Suspect (DUNDALK)
10th January: Dazzlers Day
17th January: Tiny Toffee
17th January: Social Riser
24th January: Scolboa Rock
25th January: Sitcom
31st January: Laurel Park
8th February: Le Vent D’AntanThat is eleven horses we are 100% certain about in just five weeks.
But let’s not forget that the Irish race only about 5-6 times a week. This isn’t a normal number if you really care about the sport and if you really love and respect animals.
We are not talking about point-to-point deaths or horses killed on the gallops or horses that are put down at a later stage due to injuries suffered on the racecourse.Please provide more than one month’s evidence. To mean anything it Needs at least a year if not five.
Value Is Everything
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