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    Avatar photograysonscolumn
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    No, he won a legitimate National in 1992. Esha Ness was the winner of the void one a year later. I can’t remember what action the bookies did or didn’t take on that occasion.

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    Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.

    #165093
    moehat
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    I seem to remember everyone got their stake money back which, in my case was exactly the same as if the race had stood.

    #165102
    GhostofTheFellow
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    Giant horse and a real chaser.

    Use to have to take out the plug to get tyhe best of him.

    Didnt have much pace but when he got up to his cruising speed he was pure class.

    #165110
    carvillshill
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    He was almost 18 hands high I think, a giant in horse terms.

    #165111
    davidbrady
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    I seem to remember everyone got their stake money back which, in my case was exactly the same as if the race had stood.

    Would you not have LOST your stake money if the result had stood?

    #165136
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    Always remember when he won the 1992 National, Des Lynam interviewed his owner – Mrs Patricia Thompson ( Cheveley Park Stud), I seem to remember her saying that it was as big a thrill as Polar Falcon winning the Lockinge – Des looked nonplussed!!

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    Esha Ness won the national that never was it was declared as a void race so everyone got their stake back

    Party Politics won the 1992 grand national

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    #165353
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    didn’t Esha Ness ‘win’ the race in a very good time, and would probably have been the winner had it not been a void race? Felt so sorry for his jockey.

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    didn’t Esha Ness ‘win’ the race in a very good time, and would probably have been the winner had it not been a void race? Felt so sorry for his jockey.

    The image of John White, head in his hand(s), realising that he hadn’t won the National is still etched in my mind; however I don’t recall anyone suggesting that he was an especially unlucky loser given that most of the field either didn’t start or pulled up within a circuit including Party Politics. It was a fast time by general standards (the race was run on good to firm going) but still nearly 13 seconds slower than Mr Frisk who carried 9lb more. In fairness to Esha Ness though, the horses who filled the places were classy types who gave credence to the form being sound.

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    Use to have to take out the plug to get tyhe best of him.

    In all fairness, the plug had to have been taken out [when ridden] to stop him from keeling over and dying!!!! :lol: With the tracheotomy plug in, they cannot breathe when placed under exertion, they have to be removed when doing any exercise. The whole lot (the plates that keep the hole open too) needs taking out regularly to be cleaned also as it gets full of gunk.

    As an aside, when the interlocking plates in the throat that keep the hole open (and act as the socket for the plug) are taken out, they heal up exceptionally quickly; it’s amazing to see how fast it all heals over.

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    The whole hilarious 1993 debacle: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx1VBgV8vo8

    Listen to Aussie Jims razor sharp commentary (no sarcasm there).

    I can’t believe that John White et al didn’t know they should have pulled up.

    #165850
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    didn’t Esha Ness ‘win’ the race in a very good time, and would probably have been the winner had it not been a void race? Felt so sorry for his jockey.

    The image of John White, head in his hand(s), realising that he hadn’t won the National is still etched in my mind; however I don’t recall anyone suggesting that he was an especially unlucky loser given that most of the field either didn’t start or pulled up within a circuit including Party Politics. It was a fast time by general standards (the race was run on good to firm going) but still nearly 13 seconds slower than Mr Frisk who carried 9lb more. In fairness to Esha Ness though, the horses who filled the places were classy types who gave credence to the form being sound.

    Interestingly, I covered some of the same ground in an entry on my blog in January, as a riposte to a Weekender article by Carl Evans. He was taking the point-to-point annual to task for continuing to refer to the 2001 (foot and mouth) season as having had champion men and women riders, even though the season was reduced to barely a couple of dozen meetings and no more than a quarter of the scheduled hunters’ chases. “After all”, he reasoned, “no-one claims Esha Ness won the void 1993 Grand Nationalâ€

    Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.

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    Thank you Grays for remembering ol’ Frisk
    but back to Politics

    Amazing to think of the passing of time
    and that it was fifteen years ago that I was sat
    in this same high backed winged chair
    the night before the National
    it was 2 am so it wasn’t night
    and I was expecting
    when suddenly it started…
    P P P PPPPPP

    #165867
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    You’ve mentioned ‘ol man Frisk,
    you started so I will continue…

    What a lovely bone hard race that was
    the natural order of dry brittle ground
    grabbed at by dry hooves
    a feast of the sun

    It will never ever be repeated
    plastic national
    plastic mac
    plastic hose

    #165870
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    what a race it is; whatever I remember of most years of my life there are certain nationals that I can remember as if it were yesterday; I can still visualize the sunny day when Aldaniti won, and can see the sun streaming in through the window; the look on my daughters face the year when Earth Summit won when she thought her mum had gone stark raving mad because I was pacing up and down the living room with my head in my hands; the thrill of seeing Seagram catch Garrison Savannah, although my heart was ruling my pocket that day because I half wanted Garry to win, but the image of John White’s face will always haunt me.

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    As if it were yesterday
    oh yes one remembers it well
    It was quite an easy work out for Seagram
    and quite easy to work out he could win it.
    one would think that :lol:
    My first planned bet rather than a flutterwing on the National
    I don’t think he was much more than sixteensy
    the weeks prior. I went in for a smallish bag
    on three different occasions at that price.
    It was an exciting race and I had also backed Garry
    no that was a later year when he came second again.

    Loved the look of that manager brassy blond coral
    burnt lips untying her nightie when she should have been
    opening up her shop and offering me early prices.
    I was often the only idiot waiting for her.
    Well she paid me out for Seagram
    as if it was her own money
    six hundred nicker
    it could have been her Wayne Rooney moment
    but on the last hundred she John Terried it

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