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  • #1619712
    Avatar photoWilts
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    “Is there a source for that figure please?”

    You can find it by asking your local council for a breakdown of its spending.
    Go back just a few years and when your bill came, say, early March, they used to include a leaflet detailing full spending breakdown of where the annual council tax revenue actually is allocated to.
    Our local council stopped sending it out a few years back.

    #1619714
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    “There are always efficiency savings to be made in any big spending department across all.”

    Cheers, Wilts, but to pick up on the above….

    I was blessed or cursed with an economics lecturer for a father and two things he said to me in the 1970s seem relevant here.

    – Firstly, like HDLG, he said the average adult cannot face the truth which is that you cannot have lower taxes and better public services as taxes fund better public services.

    – But secondly, he said every Conservative government in his lifetime had claimed “efficiency savings” could be made when cutting public spending. You’d think after 12 years in office they’d have already identified every efficiency cut that could be made and the reality is that the impending cuts will lead to worse public services, another truth many find hard to face.

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    #1619717
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    And it is all linked to our neoliberal overlords trying to turn “tax” into a four-letter word.

    #1619720
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Wait till the lights go out ….if this does happen in Jan then the **** will hit the fan , Sunak needs to hope the NHS doesn’t fall in a hole in the next few months , if it does and then the blackouts start the country will demand an election … As I said I’ve a pound in the bank so I’ve protected myself and those around me , i work a 60 to 63 week …others are going to have realise more of us will need to graft ….it’s the 50s again …graft or want .. there’s no 3rd option

    #1619755
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    Sunak 1.32
    Johnson 4.5
    Mordaunt 42

    Sunak’s got this – there are still many undeclared Tory MPs but I reckon most are waiting to see which way the wind is blowing.

    I expect them to mostly get behind Sunak and he may be the only one to get over 100 nominations.

    If Johnson declares (increasingly doubtful IMO) and scrapes 100 it’s game on as he’s popular still with the membership.

    But for the membership to ignore a strong indicative MPs vote for Sunak and give MPs a second PM they don’t want would be retarded even by the standards of the dimmest Daily Mail reader, currently struggling with the Mail cross word: “14 across, a fitting description of you, dear reader: “th*ck bigoted *unt.”

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    #1619827
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    Sunak 1.08!
    Mordaunt 19
    Johnson 130!

    Has Johnson decided not to run?

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    #1619829
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    He’s out.

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    #1619830
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    Yep. Been announced that he’s not standing, despite claiming to have 102 nominations.

    Yeah, right. 🙄

    #1619831
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    Lmao saying he had 102 MPs supporting him ……yeah course you did , bye Boris

    #1619832
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    I’m relieved tbh.

    I think Sunak is sure to be PM now and, while I don’t like him and am sure he’s far more right wing than many realise, at least he has a brain and will be a calming influence on the markets.

    I wonder if he will keep Hunt as Chancellor?

    I hope so tbh for similar reasons.

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    #1619833
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    Reece Mogg crying in a darkened room if his haunted mansion … Lol

    #1619834
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    Great. Now we can hear the Tories claim that they are not racist, as they have brought the UK its first non-white prime minister.

    #1619837
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    If he was from some inner city suburb like Tower Hamlets, it would actually truly be something to celebrate in my opinion.

    But he isn’t – he was privately educated the same as so many (though not all) past Prime Ministers.

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    #1619838
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    Yep; expensive private school, PPE at Oxford and married a billionaire’s daughter.

    #1619842
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    In socio-economic background terms, it breaks no new ground whatsoever.

    I doubt if many Asians will be celebrating in Tower Hamlets tonight.

    The day I see a bog* standard local comprehensive (grammar doesn’t count) schoolboy or schoolboy of any colour become PM is the day I’ll get the bunting out.

    *NB: This is NOT in this instance an acronym for Best Odds Guaranteed.

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    #1619846
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    You couldn’t make it up could you? I do have one thing to thank him for, though. Having ranted on about Operation save Big Dog I thought I aught to back The Big Dog in the Munster Nash today to go along with my topical names system. Of course we’re now going to have a PM that was also prosecuted over partygate. Johnson can now b****r off back on holiday. And his speech pretty much said that if he had stood he would have won. What does it say about the MP’s that were supporting him eg Alok Sharma who now falls into the Tom Tugendhat group of Tories that I thought were semi decent but obviously aren’t.

    #1619853
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    I think that, for once, what’s best for him is best for both his Party and even the country in the short term.

    He might have got the 102, he might have won with the Membership, but he couldn’t have governed and the hostility and support for Sunak made this clear to him.

    Don’t rule out him now refusing a job in government and biding his time, seeing if Sunak is still behind in the polls in the spring of 2024 and making a bid to depose him, saying only he can win or avoid a wipe out at the election.

    We’ve not seen or heard the last of him.

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