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September 18, 2015 at 22:15 #1207391
Warwick NH 1980/81?
September 18, 2015 at 22:19 #1207392Uttoxeter may 1985
September 18, 2015 at 22:21 #1207393Nottingham 1982 (I think)
September 19, 2015 at 13:24 #1207520Top one is Tommy Carmody, second is Robert Earnshaw, presume the third is another Dickinson jockey. Are they Righthandman’s colours or were they paler?
September 19, 2015 at 13:52 #1207528Righthand Man was owned by Mrs M Haggas (mother of the trainer I think) and her colours were white with black braces, so very similar.
September 19, 2015 at 14:11 #1207533Uttoxeter may 1985
Not sure this is Robert Earnshaw, who can be seen here:-
https://sites.google.com/site/jockeypedia/earnshaw-robert
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
September 19, 2015 at 14:25 #1207535Uttoxeter may 1985
Not sure this is Robert Earnshaw, who can be seen here:-
I’m not 100% Steve, just guessing
September 19, 2015 at 15:57 #1207542Bit of a stab in the dark, but that Uttoxeter one might be Tim Jarvis, because I’m almost certain the man following the horse in, with the brown trilby and laft hand holding his bins over his shoulder, is Alan Jarvis.
That combination had a winner at the Uttoxeter evening meeting on May 16th with a horse named Kamir, and the sunlight in that picture looks like it’s an evening rather than afternoon at that time of year.
September 19, 2015 at 16:27 #1207545And a google on Kamir led me here, showing that those colours belong to owner Mr James S Marshall:
http://glazeptaracehorsesofthepast.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/kamir.html
September 19, 2015 at 17:13 #1207547And a google on Kamir led me here, showing that those colours belong to owner Mr James S Marshall:
http://glazeptaracehorsesofthepast.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/kamir.html
The page you linked to had this photo and it is definitely the same lad leading the horse in as the original photo:-
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZGbYi3sbh_c/VQSZgRjFupI/AAAAAAAAAOo/tAPpO3w8Uts/s1600/scan0007.jpg
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
September 19, 2015 at 17:54 #1207549Thanks Yeats, steve caution and apracing for all the excellent input.
That is my shocking archive site, I have been trying to fill in the blanks for a while. Getting hold of NH results/form books from the 80’s has been near impossible.
An extremely helpful chap from betfair land, Onlooker has provided a lot of results.Thanks again.
The rider on the Nottingham horse, Reckless Phillip is going to take some finding.
September 19, 2015 at 18:43 #1207553Maybe not – I’m fairly sure that’s John Burke, best known as the rider of 1976 Grand National winner Rag Trade. This would have been towards the end of his riding career, but I remember him as someone that rode quite oftem for Alan jarvis at that time.
I can’t say for sure Burke rode the horse at Nottingham, but he definitely did ride him when he won next time at Huntingdon – that’s because the Nottingham race was on a Saturday and the newspaper archive I use (same one as Onlooker) doesn’t include Saturday editions. But the clue in the text pointed to a win at Huntingdon, my old Timeform annuals provided a fixture list and that led me to the paper for Mar 31st, the date of the next Huntingdon meeting.
Check out this picture, which shows the same remarkable bushy straight eyebrows:
September 19, 2015 at 19:17 #1207555And a google on Kamir led me here, showing that those colours belong to owner Mr James S Marshall:
http://glazeptaracehorsesofthepast.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/kamir.html
The page you linked to had this photo and it is definitely the same lad leading the horse in as the original photo:-
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZGbYi3sbh_c/VQSZgRjFupI/AAAAAAAAAOo/tAPpO3w8Uts/s1600/scan0007.jpg
Further down the page the trophy states that it was the B Lilly and Sons Handicap Steeplechase Uttoxeter 16th May 1985.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
September 19, 2015 at 21:12 #1207568Good spot, Alan, Born the same year as I was, John Burke was a fine jock – I recall backing Royal Frolic in that ’76 Gold Cup win. I see on that Jockeypedia site that poor John died at 41 of a heart attack
September 20, 2015 at 15:42 #1207637Did the same owner have a horse called Double Pleasure?
I remember recording a day’s racing off the Beeb in the mid 80s from Lingfield, prob the Friday of the Classic Trials meeting. I don’t know why, but a few horses and jockeys from the first race stick in my mind. I think Swinburn was on Double Pleasure, and these colours seem familiar.
Don’t think it won. In fact, I can’t remember the winner at all.
September 20, 2015 at 16:13 #1207645No record of a horse with that name running on the flat in the 1980s according to Timeform.
September 20, 2015 at 16:20 #1207646But there was one called Double Limit, who ran in the first race at that meeting in 1984, and he was trained by A Jarvis and ridden by his son, so quite possible it was in the same colours.
According to Racehorses of 1984, Double Limit went on to win a seller and two nurseries, before finishing third in the 10F Zetland Stakes at Newmarket at the end of the season.
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