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Franny Norton in the 2-50 today at Salisbury on Risen Star.
It appeared to me that he had the race won on Risen Star, never resorted to the whip or really pushed the horse out and was caught in the dying strides yet there was no enquiry into his ride.If others watched it I wonder what your thoughts are.
I know the RUK pundits found it odd straight after the race but then started coming up with excuses like the ground, which the horse had travelled very well on. They never seem to criticise but make excuses.
Mmm, there were shouts of "Franny’s backed the winner!" around me when this one happened.
I’m not on that bandwagon, but thought it was certain the rider would get 28 days when I saw it live. I’m shocked that there wasn’t even an enquiry – it looked like a very bad misjudgment that cost the horse the race.
Risen Star looks like a very hard ride. The horse stopped very quickly on his last start and goes against the Mark Johnston horse typecast by finding nothing off the bit, so you definitely don’t want to drop your hands and run the risk with him.
I was on course, up in the stands virtually looking over the top of them. Didn’t have a bet in the race but the way I saw it is:
Fanning rode a better race than Doyle up to the last furlong. Looking at the race live – up until the last half furlong it always seemed to me as though Fanning was going to hold on. That is obviously what Fanning also thought. Had he gone for the whip earlier (a furlong or even 150 yards out) would’ve held on. Did seem to get in a bit of a muddle, but Fanning never stopped riding (that I saw) so no need for an enquirey.
It was imo Fanning’s good jockeyship that got his mount in such an excellent position in the first place. Unfortuntely he then screwed it up in the final stages.
Doyle rode a poor race, should’ve known his mount would take time to pick up, giving too much to do, only getting away with it because of Fanning’s later misjudgment.
Value Is EverythingMy money’s on Ginger being the last of the true believers. Race fans are slowly but surely beginning to understand the unwritten rules of racing, ie, keep your charges talent well hidden until the appointed DAY, the BIG DAY.
Form readers were once the elite of racing fans, the men who kept tabs on weight, distances, going, left hand, right hand tracks, raw bias, etc. etc. Today, all that is meaningless. Connections have it all sewn up.
Good post Ginge – it was Franny Norton on the 2nd rather than Fanning though.
Not sure what mischief you’re trying to create Woolfy, but surely this is an issue of a very badly judged ride rather than a horse being stopped. Think
Lost In Normandy
rather than
Rascal In The Mix
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Not sure what mischief you’re trying to create Woolfy, but surely this is an issue of a very badly judged ride rather than a horse being stopped. Think
Lost In Normandy
rather than
Rascal In The Mix
.
How would you know the difference?
In your first post you of course jokingly referred to "Franny’s backed the winner" but seriously expressed shock there was no enquiry and he didn’t receive 28 days.
The shocking thing is that the BHA are actively encouraging this type of ride and find it perfectly acceptable while farcically suspending Silvestre De Sousa for using his whip when "clearly winning".
Think you will be seeing a lot more rides like Norton’s in the future.
Not sure what mischief you’re trying to create Woolfy, but surely this is an issue of a very badly judged ride rather than a horse being stopped. Think
Lost In Normandy
rather than
Rascal In The Mix
.
How would you know the difference?
In your first post you of course jokingly referred to "Franny’s backed the winner" but seriously expressed shock there was no enquiry and he didn’t receive 28 days.
The shocking thing is that the BHA are actively encouraging this type of ride and find it perfectly acceptable while farcically suspending Silvestre De Sousa for using his whip when "clearly winning".
Think you will be seeing a lot more rides like Norton’s in the future.
So Eddie, what exactly is the point of outriding your opponent for 9 tenths of the race, getting a two length lead by your own racing skill (and Doyle’s stupidity)… Only to deliberately lose the race?
Surely if wanting to lose, it would be easier not to get in to such a bloody good position in the first place?
Value Is EverythingSo Eddie, what exactly is the point of outriding your opponent for 9 tenths of the race, getting a two length lead by your own racing skill (and Doyle’s stupidity)… Only to deliberately lose the race?
Surely if wanting to lose, it would be easier not to get in to such a bloody good position in the first place?
To fool people like you
Obviously if someone wanted to throw a race they would follow your criteria for throwing one then no one would be any the wiser
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