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Jim –
The horse that won yesterday’s Betfair Chase was ‘Kauto <u>Star</u>’. Let’s make yesterday the final occasion you shorten it, relentlessly and most annoyingly, to ‘Kauto’ during the call.
The horse (Kauto Star) is also pronounced Kawto Star; not, as is the wont of many a tv commentator, Kayto Star.
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I’ll stick with Kay – To seeing as the trainer and jockey both use that and sounds better anyway haha.
Someone on Racing UK yesterday kept calling him by some weird pronunciation, it was quite extraordinary
When ED was about a neck down from KS, according to Jim McGrath, Kauto was three lengths clear.
The Kauto in Kauto Star comes from his dam, Kauto Relka. She got it from her dam, Kautorette. She got it from her sire, Kautokeino.
Kautokeino is a region of Norway:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kautokeino
I asked on a Nordic newsgroup how to pronounce the Kauto part of Kautokeino and was given this answer:
The name is obviously Finnicized Saami, and the proper pronunciation would thus be ‘cow-toh’. But since the diphthong ‘au’ is pronounced ‘æu’ in Norwegian, Kauto is pronounced ‘kæu-to’.
‘æ’ resembles ‘a’ in ‘bad’
‘u’ resembles ‘u’ in ‘lucid’ but pronounced short
‘to’ can be prounounced like the English ‘to’Difficult? Then simply use the Finnish pronunciation!
I also went hunting on Youtube for any mention of it, and found this:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PGORuOhKC … re=related
It’s mentioned around the 21 second mark.
No reason why there should be any great mystery about it, or why most of the commentators and pundits couldn’t find this out for themselves.
I generally avoid the BBC coverage and when I do watch it its with the mute button on. Not being at home this weekend, there was no alternative and every race was ruined by the sound of horses galloping/jumping and crowd chering that was dubbed over every race (as if the commentary & presentation weren’t poor enough anyway). RTE racing tried this nonsense a couple of years back and quickly discarded it after complaints.
It has got to the stage where BBC Racing is almost unwatchable – I remember looking forward to their coverage of the big meetings years ago with Julian Wilson, O’Sullevan etc – now its just another afternoon tv programme with horse racing as its ‘product’.It has got to the stage where BBC Racing is almost unwatchable – I remember looking forward to their coverage of the big meetings years ago with Julian Wilson, O’Sullevan etc – now its just another afternoon tv programme with horse racing as its ‘product’.
I used to look forward to BBc racing WITHOUT Jools, but now I wish we had him and (particularly) PO’S back.
Don’t miss Bill Smith and Jimmy Lindley, thoughAs the name comes from Norway, the horse was bred, named and raced in France but now races in the UK, and the owner and trainer cannot agree on the way to say it, I suspect there will never be universal agreement on the correct way to say Kauto!
Don’t miss Bill Smith and Jimmy Lindley, though
Not sure I`m in complete agreement PPG.
I don`t think BBC have managed to improve on these with subsequent ex-professionals ( Probably says it all about BBC or is it Sunset and Vine coverage)
I’ll stick with Kay – To seeing as the trainer and jockey both use that and sounds better anyway haha.
Someone on Racing UK yesterday kept calling him by some weird pronunciation, it was quite extraordinary
RUK had me confused with the weird peonunciation. Why do they do it?
I’ll stick with Kay also.Even the great Peter O’Sullivan referred Desert Orchid as ‘Dessie’ on many occasions during his races. Did it make a difference to the race or to the public in terms of what horse he was talking about? I don’t think it did.
Mike
What about the Irish commentators: I was talking the other day to yer man who said yer man had himself spot on for this one. I’ll be backing him for sure
Kay toe was the Green Hornets sidekick…….Kawtoe=Kauto seems easy to me.
Never be another Peter O’Sullivan. If you could ever describe a commentator as Genius then he was the man. You could go and make dinner and just listening you could imagine everything that was going on.
Julian Wilson: Can anyone remember when Gypsy Dave Gouding told him he bred bogarts in his spare time on TV………I was splitting my sides and once he cottoned on Davy was taking the piss he looked like Queen Victoria on a bad day. Wilson was a big snob.
I don’t live in the UK now and I know things change but a few years back Jim McGrath was very highly thought off despite (censored). So I am somewhat surprised people are having a go at him. He was a real nice guy who I met several times before racing. Always gave you smile and a nod when scuurying about getting ready for the days racing and often stopped for a chat if you were there early and you ran into him……Totally genuine, loves the game and loves the people in it and works his butt off….That was a few years back as I say, maybe he’s got bored with it all who knows.
Would have him over Tommo any day of the week.
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