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May 2, 2010 at 18:28 #293707
"Mr.Wilson" wrote: I feel so strongly about the injustice served today given how loosely we’re delt with over the pond just look at Dar Re Mi, Inxile…
Maybe I’m interpreting up wrongly but do you mean to say you wouldn’t feel so agrieved if the result had gone the way of an English animal?!
May 2, 2010 at 18:36 #293710Had the
Inxile
race been run at Newmarket,he would have kept the race as he won comfortably even though he caused slight interference,thats because the result wasn"t affected in the slightest! Todays result would have been the same had it been run in France,the number 1 and only question needed to be asked is "Did the interference affect the result"? Today Yes! Inxile No! Our Stewarding is way more in line than the useless French muppets!
May 2, 2010 at 19:32 #293742Watching the race side on from the stands I didn’t see anything wrong.
However I then went into the paddock for the next race whilst the steward’s enquiry was going on. We watched a head-on view of the race and the immediate reaction of trainers and racing professionals around me was that JQ would lose it. Given the narrow margin of victory and how far she carried SD across into the middle of the course (including a minor bump) made it seem doomed for the "winner".
My own view on Ch 4 is that Cat was asked to fill in the time when the steward’s enquiry was going on and did a good job in difficult circumstances.
As for JQ’s owner he must surely have had the most unbelievable thrill when his filly flashed past the post and the result of the photograph was announced. He’ll always remember that his filly was first past the post in a Classic and she lives to go on and hopefully do well in the future. Yes he’ll have lost some prizemoney but ultimately her value will have risen enormously and she got the glory.
May 2, 2010 at 19:56 #293759The owner of JQ apparently said something along the line of ‘that’s racing.’ I can’t imagine the runners up prize money was too shabby.
May 2, 2010 at 19:59 #293760AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
What he actually said;
"Never mind, we will do another interview some other time. It’s not a loss, it’s one of those things."
"British horseracing hasn’t had a race taken away for God knows when. I’ve been through a lot of bad luck so it’s not a problem."
May 2, 2010 at 20:03 #293762The correct decision. Well done stewards on this occasion.
May 2, 2010 at 21:10 #293777What he actually said;
"Never mind, we will do another interview some other time. It’s not a loss, it’s one of those things."
"British horseracing hasn’t had a race taken away for God knows when. I’ve been through a lot of bad luck so it’s not a problem."
Thanks.
My PC doesn’t like racingpost.com much.
May 2, 2010 at 21:21 #293785Complete rubbish to call it ‘a disaster for racing’. Given that it was the 9/2 fav that was awarded the race over a 66/1 shot I’d say that the chances are that more casual observers will be happy with the switch.
It was pretty clear cut. Watching it again on RUK Steve Mellish was clearly of a mind about what was about to occur straight after they’d passed the post, before even seeing the head-on.
It’s never edifying to see a big race (any race really) settled in that way and, for solely sentimental reasons, I’d have truly loved to see Jacqueline Guest keep it, but no one can really have any quibble with the decision I’m afraid.
All parties can march on to another day.
May 2, 2010 at 21:24 #293789This is a disgraceful thread.
I think the stewards decision was just forced. I don’t know what else they could do? The margin was a nose. In most countries that would have been a very easy decision. Britain is one of the few that would even consider letting the horse keep the race. In Hong Kong, France, Australia, America, I reckon it would be an easy and straightforward decision. The rules are a serious problem, imo, but I knew this would happen sooner or latter.
May 2, 2010 at 21:35 #293792AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
Tom Queally was on Fleeting Spirit in last years July cup. Funny thing is, the result stood that day and a couple of others might have won. That’s the reason i’m annoyed.
May 2, 2010 at 21:35 #293793I have to say i’m with Mr Wilson on this. I’m not getting into an argument as it’s just my opinion, and yes i’m a romantic and love to see 66-1 outsiders win and stories behind them… However IF the stewards did give the correct decision today… Why are other worser incidents not reversed similarly?? Imagine that today at Wolverhampton or Catterick, of course the result wouldn’t have been changed. I’ve seen far worse incidents happen without the result being reversed. So ok, if they made the correct decision today in future be consistent!!!
May 2, 2010 at 21:36 #293794AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
Tom Queally was on Fleeting Spirit in last years July cup. Funny thing is, the result stood that day and a couple of others might have won. That’s the reason i’m annoyed.
May 2, 2010 at 22:30 #293810Having watched the full race on RPTV I am at a loss to understand exactly what else the stewards could have done. It was too close and any interference, however marginal, would surely have had some effect on the result.
As for not changing the result in France. Oh yes they would and Tom Queally would have been banned for longer going on their past record.
May 2, 2010 at 22:34 #293811AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
I have to say i’m with Mr Wilson on this. I’m not getting into an argument as it’s just my opinion, and yes i’m a romantic and love to see 66-1 outsiders win and stories behind them… However IF the stewards did give the correct decision today… Why are other worser incidents not reversed similarly?? Imagine that today at Wolverhampton or Catterick, of course the result wouldn’t have been changed. I’ve seen far worse incidents happen without the result being reversed. So ok, if they made the correct decision today in future be consistent!!!
Hi Kauto, just to note my huge annoyance with Mr Wilsons original comment was he said the stewards decision was racist. I don’t know if you had seen that as it has now been edited.
The idea itself is utterly ridiculous and shame on him for even mentioning the idea.
I’m not sure if you read the full post before you agreed with him or not..
May 3, 2010 at 07:19 #293832Oh no i never seen the racist comment!! No no wasn’t at all racist in my view! I just agree that the result and stewards decision was soul destroying , and fair enough if the stewards made the correct decision then they should on other occaisions as you do see a lot worse get away with it. All said and done though i’m sure JQ will go on to win big races again so not all bad!!
May 3, 2010 at 07:59 #293835Cormack wrote…All parties can march on to another day.
Well, not exactly, Cormack. An innocent slip of the tongue I suspect.
May 3, 2010 at 08:05 #293837Moe i watched the race on C4 and online with Betfair as i do all races.It was blatantly obvious during the race that the Cecil Filly would lose it in the Stewards room,the initial reaction on the machine was only 8/13 the winner would keep it and 2/1 the French filly would get it,so i wasn"t the only one who thought the inevitable had to happen "According to our rules" obviously!
Inevitable? Obvious? In my book that betting shows the "winner" is more likely to keep it than not.
If that isn’t the case you should have been lumping on the odds against for the French filly getting it and laying heavily the odds on the "winner". -
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