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September 19, 2014 at 09:32 #26721
Yesterdays Post had the going as good to firm (watered) and a going stick reading of only 6.6. Since when did a reading of 6.6 equate to good to firm?
Only the 12mm of rain overnight on top of the watered ground with more showers forecast.
September 19, 2014 at 22:27 #490559Agreed.
The modern media only print what they are told and ask no questions even when a query of what they are being told is obviously needed.
It makes the media an ever more pointless waste of space as a reliable information source.It is very poor that a top class racetrack such as Newbury cannot be bothered to pay Turftrax to provide a going map for them each meeting. The going varies around the track even if they only provide an average, but still wrong figure.
BHA makes them go to the effort of taking going stick readings all around the track before racing but they are too unaware that having done all the hard work the information is best presented as a map.Chester used to be scrupulous about providing all the information they had together with a going map but even they have decided not to bother with the map any more. Sad BHA cannot regulate tracks to be forced to communicate information. as part of their licence.
September 20, 2014 at 07:04 #490577Just for the record, I had the going allowance for
Newbury
yesterday at
-0.58s/f
(soft).
One of the worst cases of putting the punters away regarding the going happened at
Listowel
yesterday, where you had
Gary O’Brien
"the Voice" stating that due to the rain that had fallen the going was on the soft side, and the official going description for the flat was given as yeilding.
So how come
Ashbury Boss
in the 3.05 ran
-3.56s
under the standard, and in the 4.10
Salamzar
ran
-1.79s
under the standard, I had the going allowance going off my scale at
+0.70s/f
(firm).
Most of the racing pundits, especially the crew at
RUK
only repeat what they are told, because collectively they haven’t got a scooby
Turf going allowance table:
Firm +0.55s/f to +0.63s/f
Good/firm +0.20s/f to +0.53s/f
Good -0.25s/f to +0.18s/f
Good/soft -0.55s/f to -0.28s/f
Soft -1.00s/f to -0.58s/f
Heavy -1.58s/f to -1.03s/fSeptember 20, 2014 at 09:51 #490586What did you make of Ayr’s going over the last couple of days Bluesbrothers?
September 20, 2014 at 09:55 #490588What did you make of Ayr’s going over the last couple of days Bluesbrother?
Friday +0.34s/f (good to firm)
Thurday +0.41s/f (good to firm)September 20, 2014 at 09:58 #490589Have you got access to Listowel’s course records by any chance?
I got the going as Good to Firm at Ayr both days as well. They did some watering Thursday night.
September 20, 2014 at 10:53 #490597Have you got access to Listowel’s course records by any chance?
I got the going as Good to Firm at Ayr both days as well. They did some watering Thursday night.I haven’t got the records times for Listowel, but I have a file with all the winning times for each racecourse going back to Jan 2010, just use the filters to sort the racecourse you want to look at.
September 20, 2014 at 12:35 #490610That’s great, thank you very much.
September 21, 2014 at 23:52 #490719Have you got access to Listowel’s course records by any chance?
I got the going as Good to Firm at Ayr both days as well. They did some watering Thursday night.I haven’t got the records times for Listowel, but I have a file with all the winning times for each racecourse going back to Jan 2010, just use the filters to sort the racecourse you want to look at.
Not been able to open your virginmedia cloud page
September 22, 2014 at 05:16 #490720I just tested the link, it is working fine on my end.
September 22, 2014 at 22:27 #490760Thanks.
The link does not work for me from Internet Explorer but is fine when I tried with Firefox and Chrome.
September 23, 2014 at 04:58 #490764Thanks.
The link does not work for me from Internet Explorer but is fine when I tried with Firefox and Chrome.I tried using Internet Explorer 11, and it worked OK for me
September 24, 2014 at 19:48 #490842To be fair, the rain that fell thursday night in to friday was very localised. Where I live had one of the heaviest thunder storms in recent memory (fourty minutes away from the track) but just like Goldilocks, just down the road had none and some spots had just a little. Even if the rain was "forecast", it wasn’t certain to hit the course. So possibly thought they had to water just in case it missed and went from good-firm to "firm"…
Although, I agree – they over-did the watering even allowing for the uncertainty.
I had worked out a couple of races for "good-firm", but when the rains hit my place – could imagine Newbury suffering too (we’re usually on the same trajectory) so gave up studying. The two main bets already placed were non-runners, just left a "saver" bet. Didn’t bother going to Newbury on the Friday.
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