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If only the tone of the conversation was that high brow.
Anyway, hands off Angela – I saw her first.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Trouble with Angela is that I heard her ranting away in that voice on R4 this morning
You can just imagine waking up with a splitting hangover and she’s going atomic in your earhole about not putting the bins out last night and leaving your underpants all over the place
I’m actually not only from Manchester, but from Ashton-under-Lyne.
And I’d be the first to admit the accent is a barrier to universal credibility on various levels, some say intellectual, some even say feminine, some say both.
But in Angela’s case, I just think it’s cute.
But for the wholly unfair restraining order she had put in place against me, she’d surely be Lady Cherryade Of Hampshire by now.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Fishy Rishi has officially launched his leadership bid.
He’s got no chance, in my mind: too closely linked to the outgoing administration; tax-dodging missus; wrong colour for the Tory faithful.
Rishi Sunak is right wing enough for the membership and in socio-economic wealth terms he’s “whiter” than any of them.
He’s not exactly the sort of guy who identifies with inner city Asian families in poverty.
I think he’s a loathsome character, probably the Tory I dislike the most.
I think his transparent lack of compassion for the poorest in society would be his electoral downfall.
Big chance if he makes the final two, though.
I mean, who’s more right wing than him?
Alright, maybe Baker!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"So how did sunak get to be mp for one the most traditionally Tory constituencies with one of the biggest majorities on the country glad?
You throw out the “talking crap” accusation without any back up whatsoever time and again and again but here’s an example of the total crap you spout completely nailed
No matter what everyone thinks about the Conservative Party, it is a highly effective election winning machine.
The grandees of the party will realise:
Sunak’s wealth makes him unpopular with much of the electorate and open to the accusation he is out of touch.
His wife’s one time non dom status makes it look like he has an attitude of one rule for others, one rule for the Sunaks.
His possession of a green card makes it look like he will scarper to the USA.
And that is before the press dig for anything else.
For these reasons, I believe the Tory grandees will eventually have a quiet word with him.
‘And that is before the press dig for anything else.’
Which part? Most of it is Tory and quite happy to dig for dirt on their political opponents (they’ll be desperately searching for something on Starmer now he’s been cleared).
Clive- you do realise that everyone can vote in a General Election, not just card-carrying members of the Tory Party. Right?
“No matter what everyone thinks about the Conservative Party, it is a highly effective election winning machine.”
This is key, this is true.
Kinnock and Corbyn got second chances after election defeats – what Tory leader since Heath did?
They even got rid of Thatcher.
Ruthless.
Never underestimate them.
But even they, after long periods in office, suffer from corruption brought on by the “divine right to rule” complex long periods in office can confer, and can become riven with in-fighting and a feeling they’re ready for a period out of office.
A fair few of the 2019 intake must still be (edit) FAZED!!! by the fact they’re even there – Red Wall Tory MPs, the whole five years is a free bet for them.
That’s the Tories danger – themselves.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Fair play, but if you want to push that nuclear button here on TRF, I’d be firing missiles 24/7/365.
The English language is our servant – we are not its servant, Gladders.
Unless you’re exceptionally dim – and you’re anything but – you knew what I meant!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"What are you talking about ? Sunak has consistently topped polls for t(e best next leader amongst Tory voters. Last year he was miles ahead
When they were probablyaware that he was pretty wealthy and also had a suspicion he wasn’t white Anglo Saxon; too
Total rubbish
Well …some people should back their judgement on t(e exchanges then.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-conservative-leader
Johnson is hardly a man of the people is he? Didn’t he once call his 300k newspaper salary ‘chicken feed’? That sounds like the words of a very wealthy man to me.
Most of the current lot wouldn’t get anywhere near a Tory cabinet back in their more respectable days, Sunak would I think.
We are debating two things here – popularity with the Party and popularity with the country.
No amount of wealth will put the Party off a candidate, I don’t believe ethnicity matters any more, especially if they think they’re onto an election winner and I think Sunak has every chance of becoming Leader and PM.
In terms of the country, yes, people expect any Tory leader to be well heeled, but it’s real telephone numbers stuff with Sunak.
And he’s unashamedly right wing, for all the slickness the brutal lack of compassion or social conscience is there for all to see.
“My grand parents were immigrants, my Dad was a GP and after a City career I’m mega wealthy – that’s what you can do in two generations of you’re smart and graft so F compassion, it’s every man or woman for themselves.”
That is not a quote, but you can bet your bottom dollar that’s how he thinks.
And he’s had a Partygate fine.
All of that adds up to a good target for Starmer.
He would rather face that than a One Nation blemish-free moderate, with similar politics to his own, who has the jump on him by having done the job two years by 2024.
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