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Cormack,
Any chance of providing a fenced off section of the forum for those posters whose entire input seems to consist of:
Yah boo sucks, I’ve had a bigger bet than you so there and I got a better price than you anyway.
Oh no you didn’t and your horse is useless and you don’t know nothing.
Tedious is the polite word that comes to mind.
AP
(I’m sure that I’ll now be told I don’t have to read the threads if I’m not interested, but most of these posts occur in other wise interesting discussions)
AP your own contubutions may be very tedious to a lot of members on here. I’m not saying they are but some would say they were as they would mines.
I don’t mind talking about anything to do with racing but horses, betting and making a few bob is the main aim of the game , Not how big Bechers Brook is.
I was reading some very interesting posts about MWDS and Louch Deg and up pops apost right in the middle of the discusion.
"Thank God he isn’t trained by Jonjo, it would never be the horse’s problem then
"Statements like that which are totally uncalled for make me sick to my stomache.
Childish uneducated uninformative ignorant their isn’t enough words to describe it.
If you want to play world cop get your act together and go after the people who continously write crap like that not the guys who talk about betting and have a friendly argument about which horse is best.
There are people on here who slag jockeys and they have never sat on a horse in their life, think they know horses better than the jockey that rides him or trainers who live with their horses day in day out. These people are professionals most of which have forgotten more about racing than most armchair punters will ever learn……but if you want to be a memeber of a forum like this you should expect to have to put up with it even if you don’t agree……….not saying you have to be silent but what you are suggesting would be much simpler if you found yourself a little corner and just ignored those you don’t approve of…………but then I would miss you so dont do that
Man there are all sorts. I don’t mind anyone expressing their point of view talking about bets they have had, or even trying to get their point across by saying they have had a big bet to encourage others to do the same.
Persoanlly I don’t give a dam if someone thinks I’m a twat if I say I bet such and such…….I never lie or aftertime….just my way as I come from a background of setting up touches and taking every penny Iwe could off bookies by getting as good a price as we could.
If you find that tedious I am sorry but I also discuss any racing subject you want to as long as it’s NH.
The trouble is some people seem "too heavy" and emotionless.
How difficult is it to ignore something you don’t like? Why do we have to have posts moaning at what other people post?
Its a sport people like to interact on all aspects not just the boring political part of it.
think telling you how much you have had on a bet can be relevant.
why?
maybe in relation to your other bets…yes. But in isolation i couldnt give a fxxx
Sorry for the 3 threads in quick succsesh, but I am reading and writing as things dawn on me.
I think telling you how much you have had on a bet can be relevant.
If someone comes on and says "I really fancy Horse A at 7/1 in the Gold Cup and have had a serious whisper" it is important to know they have had for them a decent bet on it if it is to be taken seriously.
And how do you tell what is a decent amount, KCC?
I could come on here and say "I’ve had £1000 on this good thing", and no bugger would know whether that’s loose change or a maximum bet.
Well…………….ok……..bad example, because everyone has by now figured out that I’m a complete tinker……………….but the fact remains that, without knowing the context, you can never know how strong someone’s wager.
Unless the say "I have had my giro/benefit money on this – if it loses, I don’t eat until Wednesday, but it can’t get beat’, and if stuff like that starts getting posted, then the forum truly is headed downhill, because it will have morphed into the BetFair forum.
Grassy what really IS dragging the forum down is people keep complaining about other peoples posts. Now trust me there is nothing more irritating than that. People are scared to breathe in case someone moans.
Don’t like a topic – Ignore it – it really is that simple.
Spot on Grasshopper
Talking about money is so grubby
If folk really want to blather on about how much they’ve had on a horse or how much they’ve won (and god knows why) then please use the points etiquette favoured by gentlemen of the turf:
I’ve bet my max 5pts on Kauto Star
A good week at Cheltenham, 20pts upGrassy what really IS dragging the forum down is people keep complaining about other peoples posts. Now trust me there is nothing more irritating than that. People are scared to breathe in case someone moans.
Don’t like a topic – Ignore it – it really is that simple.
Precisely why some people like me and charlie are thinking of ignoring the forum, and why it’s not an over – reaction to do so. Not that I would be missed as I know and have said myself this place is bigger than any one member.
I respect your opinion Flash but it’s fair to say this place is open to a lot of demographic change of late.
There is nothing wrong with this forum that I can see.
Despite certain complaints it is not like a "who bets what playground" there are actually a variety of topic types some of which will interest some people more than others.
Its about balance and I don’t think there is an inbalance on here at all.
I guarantee there will always be certain topics that don’t interest certain people. There are topics I don’t like and they bore me rigid some of them but I just ignore them and move on to the next.
I can’t understand why thats seemingly so difficult for people to do?
Grassy what really IS dragging the forum down is people keep complaining about other peoples posts. Now trust me there is nothing more irritating than that. People are scared to breathe in case someone moans.
There has been an influx of new forumites, including some prolific posters. Inevitablty this changes the nature of the forum and it means that some of the established points of etiquette (not blathering on about how much you have on such and such a horse) are thrown into question. Rather like a rush of new members at a golf club. A new etiquette will develop but hopefully one that keeps as many members on board as possible.
As I said on another thread, I do think that if everyone starts going on about how much they’ve won and lost each day, the forum really does start to become something else entirely and most threads will be utterly tedious.
For the record, last autumn, when MickyMo was making a lot of posts, I thought he was unfairly criticised because his threads were about racing, were well-constructed and on a wide range of subjects and some of the veterans of the forum were a little too quick to sneer.
But in recent weeks there has been a tidal wave of new threads. I don’t have a problem with the Kauto v Denman thread, provided there is only one. People should make an effort to post their thoughts in an existing thread before starting a new one, as it is easier on the eye and the brain. And if this forum turns into a daily account of everyone’s betting wins and losses, then the threads will be off the page and we might as well twin ourselves with the Betfair forum and have done with it.
I’m reluctant to post here, as I think we’re going round in circles – like a dog chasing its tail – but here goes:
My opinion is that this forum has changed its character greatly. That may well be the problem.
Society, standards, ethics, and racing have all changed.
As an old codger, I find it hard to wade through some of the stuff that seems to pass as the " done thing" nowadays.
Perhaps, I’m just old -fashioned.Frankly, much of the stuff this year seems to me to be based on the style set by the buttfair forum. Maybe that’s "cool", I really don’t know.
My suggestion is that we all check out the various sections on this forum and then try posting in the relevant place. This may help avoid annoying those who don’t care for our subject matter or for our style.
Finally, I’d think that " chit-chat" would be a good corner for the compulsive attention-seekers, with perhaps a backroom for boring old farts, such as myself, who prefer the nittygritty of racing to all the shite and hype of media-style filler.
That’s the problem with being old ; we’ve heard all the bullshit decades ago!
Grassy what really IS dragging the forum down is people keep complaining about other peoples posts. Now trust me there is nothing more irritating than that. People are scared to breathe in case someone moans.
There has been an influx of new forumites, including some prolific posters. Inevitablty this changes the nature of the forum and it means that some of the established points of etiquette (not blathering on about how much you have on such and such a horse) are thrown into question. Rather like a rush of new members at a golf club. A new etiquette will develop but hopefully one that keeps as many members on board as possible.
As I said on another thread, I do think that if everyone starts going on about how much they’ve won and lost each day, the forum really does start to become something else entirely and most threads will be utterly tedious.
I take your point but I don’t think its anywhere near that stage do you?
Sorry for the 3 threads in quick succsesh, but I am reading and writing as things dawn on me.
I think telling you how much you have had on a bet can be relevant.
If someone comes on and says "I really fancy Horse A at 7/1 in the Gold Cup and have had a serious whisper" it is important to know they have had for them a decent bet on it if it is to be taken seriously.
And how do you tell what is a decent amount, KCC?
I could come on here and say "I’ve had £1000 on this good thing", and no bugger would know whether that’s loose change or a maximum bet.
Well…………….ok……..bad example, because everyone has by now figured out that I’m a complete tinker……………….but the fact remains that, without knowing the context, you can never know how strong someone’s wager.
Unless the say "I have had my giro/benefit money on this – if it loses, I don’t eat until Wednesday, but it can’t get beat’, and if stuff like that starts getting posted, then the forum truly is headed downhill, because it will have morphed into the BetFair forum.
I’ve only seen one guys post amounts on here but I sort of ignored it. I didn’t disbelieve him for a minute but it’s somethin I personally wouldn’t do.
I have 4 stakes I try to work around…….small normal normal halved when backing ew and Massive. Now that could be 20p 2 quid and 5 quid or it could be 10,000 baht 100,000 baht and 500,000 baht……..that should cause some confusion
The amount is irrelevant and no one needs to use figures to get their point across……..I have only used the word massive twice……Kauto Star and Binocular yesterday who I wish everyone on the forum had had their gooiles on………..if Joe Bloggs came on and said he was head lad for Paul Nichols and Twist Magic wasn’t going to run and he just had a massive bet on their other horse for the QMCC…….sorry forgotten it’s name, I would be very tempted to have a right bet on it.However if he came on and said I had a small bet on the horse I would be a lot less likely to have a bet.
Now he has done that without mentioning actual amounts so I really dont’ see the need…………just because someone might have their last 10,000 quid on a horse doesn’t make it any more likely to win than it does when someone said he’s had his biggest bet ever on a 5/1 shot and will collect 10 quid if it wins……….that is if they both have had their maxiumum bet and both have the same reason for fancying the horse
Only time I would want to know how much someone had on is if they had a 100,000 quid on a 10/1 shot and wanted to take everyone on the forum to Disneyland for a fortnight all expenses paid.
Everyone is entitled to his / her opinion, so to criticize any members input, whether they have been interested in the game for one month or fifty years, is way out of order.
Many people talk through their wallets, some with their hearts and very few (
) with their brain.The vast array of subjects that our favourite sport conjures up and the variety of people who feel compelled to convey their thoughts, makes many forums, including TRF, such an excellent and enjoyable place to visit. I make myself a cup of tea, log on here for about thirty minutes and enjoy reading fellow enthusiasts views on the days events.
There are certain tendencies that do irritate me. The irrational slating of jockey’s, trainers etc is incredibly petty – give an opinion on a performance, trainer’s form etc without all the personal crap. The Daily Lays and Plays section would be far easier to digest if people didn’t start unnecessary threads – why start a new thread for 2.15 FONTWELL when it could be submitted in a daily LAY AND PLAY thread.
I don’t care if some people are over-enthusiastic – It’s incredible that some members of this forum question those of us who can’t help but get excited over this years Gold Cup. If you can’t get excited over this, you simply don’t love the sport. Perhaps some people find that last sentence irritating!?
As far those of you who enjoy saying how much you gamble / won, it doesn’t bother me. Personally, I’m a £5 double, 20p Lucky 15 , £8 Scoop 6 and £1 Placepot/Jackpot punter – bet little, (try and) win big is my motto. My love for horses and the sport easily beats the financial aspect that cloud many an ‘experts’ verdict.
I enjoy reading the contributions on what I consider to be the premier Horse Racing Forum on the web. We all have our favourite members – those who we tend to agree with, rather than those with analytical ability!
Then there’s Fist…who you either love or love to disagree with!!
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