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July 15, 2007 at 05:43 #4644
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I need some help with horses names please.
To satisfy a cynical US racing fan, that horses in the UK can run and win well into their teen years.
I suppose I’m looking for examples over 14 yrs and I think the oldest was 18 under rules.
If there are any PtP buffs, then the oldest winner there would add strength to the reply, as I suspect without trolling through my old Mac & Selby’s, that it would be higher there.
They were questioning the value of an older horse running in a particular race, so I had to point out to them that this wasn’t uncommon across the water, probably due to the horses being more robust and not racing on medication……..(Just for good measure).
Any help appreciated.
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July 15, 2007 at 06:36 #107939Didn’t SONNY SOMERS race at the age of 17?
July 15, 2007 at 07:13 #107940There was a horse called Shoon Wind who won a hunt race well into his teens, may have been 16/17.
I rode my first winner on a horse called Dovetto, who was 14.
Think it was last year a 14yo won a maiden first time out in a p to p.
A horse called My Legal Eagle is a good example, although ‘only’ 13.
Galway, won Hunter Chases this season at 14.July 15, 2007 at 07:59 #107944"Would Mr Happy Jack and Mr Graysonscolumn please make themselves known to security"
July 15, 2007 at 08:50 #107947Also, Samuel Wilderspin (just ignore this season).
July 15, 2007 at 08:52 #107948As already mentioned, Sonny Sommers. He is joint oldest (and latest – Lingfield, 28th Feb 1980) to win a race – at the grand old age of 18.
The oldest horse to take part in a race in Britain was was actually Creggmore Boy, who ended his career by running fourth in a handicap chase at Cartmel on June 9th, 1962. He was 22 years of age at the time.
* The last race he won was six years earlier.
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July 15, 2007 at 08:54 #107949Earthmover won at the Cheltenham Festival aged 13
Spot Thedifference also won earlier this year at Punchestown aged 14
July 15, 2007 at 13:06 #107982Off the top of my head I came up with these four :-
Chaplins Club, Densben, Sharp Hat (still going now at 13) all won on the flat at the age of 12.
Mac Vidi won over the jumps at the age of 15
July 15, 2007 at 13:12 #107983According to Racehorses of 2005, Redoubtable became the oldest horse since 1973 to win on the Flat when winning at Southwell as a 14yo.
July 15, 2007 at 14:09 #107990The very wonderful Adamant Approach (13 years young) has done rather well this year and is declared to run in tomorrow’s feature race on the first day of the Killarney festival – go on boy!!
July 15, 2007 at 18:16 #108003Demasta has been a popular winner for Alex Embiricos and Peter Johnson in East Anglian points at 16 years young this season.
Homme de Fer is still one of the most reliable of pointers, winning yet again around Fakenham, at the age of 15 this year.
July 15, 2007 at 18:42 #108007The oldest winner this point-to-point season was the seventeen year old Bold Navigator who won the Jedforest Members race at Friars Haugh in February.
Demasta, as Adrian mentioned, is also going strong and has won twice this season – but if you want to be pedantic (why break the habit of a lifetime) then he is really only fifteen and a half, being a New Zealand bred…
As for more famous horses are concerned, Algan, who won the 1994 King George, suddenly and very mysteriously resurfaced in English points ten years later at the age of sixteen (winning twice). His former Doumen stablemate Djeddah also popped up in the same yard that season (aged thirteen) but sadly dropped dead on his first foray between the flags.
As far as under Rules is concerned, the oldest I can remember running under Rules in the last few years is Bob Brazington’s Jimbalou who made his last racecourse appearance a few months into his seventeenth year
July 15, 2007 at 19:23 #108013It might be a little young but Star Glow is 13 and still going strong – he won a chase at Lingfield earlier this year. He should win another this season I’m sure – he’s in rude health.
July 15, 2007 at 19:51 #108020Bishopdale ran with credit for Steve Chadwick at the age of sixteen a few years ago, and De Pluvinel not only won the Royal Artillery Gold Cup at that age, but followed up the next year. As mentioned Mac Vidi ran up a sequence at the age of 14/15 and ran the race of his life to be placed in the Gold Cup at the end of that season ~ ironically, if he hadn’t chased the winner so hard, he may have held second, which would eventually have seen him crowned the winner when Alverton was disqualified. Others I remember running with credit at 14 or more are Eastern Destiny, Bri Eden, Jimmy Miff and Prince Carlton.
Lawks a Lawdy, nearly forgot one of my all time favourites ~ Vulrory’s Clown, possibly the safest jumper of a fence in history, was also still winning races at 15.
July 15, 2007 at 21:01 #108028According to my database:
Since 1/1/07 under NH Rules in UK
73 13yos have run
27 14yos have run, the sole winner being Galway (3 times)
10 15yos have run, the sole winner being Longstone Boy
No 16yo+
Have to mention Mr Dow Jones who won three chases late last year when ‘nearly’ a 15yo.
July 16, 2007 at 04:07 #108062Thank you all for your help, it brought back some memories and has given me something to go to war with.
Griff.
July 16, 2007 at 11:40 #108086Bishopdale ran with credit for Steve Chadwick at the age of sixteen a few years ago,
I’m pretty sure he won one at 16 as well – a very poor handicap chase at Hexham, but the quality won’t have mattered to connections.
Others I remember running with credit at 14 or more are Eastern Destiny,
Eastern Destiny was a master at winning on his season bow and did just that yet again when taking a Nottingham hunters’ chase at 16. Sadly, and undeniably, he collapsed on his way back to the enclosures.
Jeremy
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