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Rainbow View…..we all knew she hadnt trained on so no suprise there.
Wallace, you are obsessed with this ridiculous notion. You are completely wrong as Gosden and Fortune have alluded to on several occasions. She’s also just finished 2nd in a Nassau.
anyone can tell me why 80% of older fillies doesnt train on ?
Next in the list goldikova tommorow
Class filly won in the end. I backed Rainbow View and High Heeled.
Rainbow View is exactly the same filly as she was last season IMO. Have re-named Glorious Goodwood F*****g s**t Goodwood. Awful week.
zarkava
i am sure goldikova isnt the same this year only beat spacious 1 l at hq
and tomorrow she wont win you ll seeLook Zarkava…..she hasnt won a Group 1.
She has had 5 goes at it this year and she just isnt up to it.
She got terrible ground that she "needs" and she still couldnt win despite the ground being a negative for every other runner in the field.
She hasnt trained on as good as she was as a 2yr old.
2 year old 1-1-1-1-
3 year old 5-4-3-4-2
I rest my case
]She wont win a Group 1 this season or next or the year after.
Urgh, using form figures to prove whether something has trained on or not.
Fine, Zarkava is better than Sea The Stars because her form figures read 1111111 and STS’ read 411111. She’s better than Brigadier Gerard because his form figures read 111111111111211111 and she’s better than Dancing Brave because he was beaten as well.
Oh, and Footstepsinthesand is a better horse than Rip Van Winkle because his figures are 111 and Rip’s are 1174421.
zarkava
i am sure goldikova isnt the same this year only beat spacious 1 l at hq
and tomorrow she wont win you ll seeHands and heels, no pace, first run back from a virus, etc. What exactly is going to beat her? Lahaleeb and Elusive Wave, horses she has infinitely better form than on every single line available?
Beggers Belief that respone by Zarkava…
She hasnt won a bloody race this year for goodness sake….
She hasnt even looked like winning a race this year
Your tireless spin to suit your arguments is very annoying.
In fact i not even going to argue with you as its like Arkle all over again
What spin exactly am I using? You’ve said she hasn’t trained on and you’ve used her form figures as ‘evidence’.
Well I’m using form figures as ‘evidence’ that Zarkava is superior to Brigadier Gerard, Dancing Brave and Sea The Stars.
My ‘evidence’ is about as worthless as yours.
Do you understand what trains on mean?
Achieving the same level or standard of form as a 2yr old.
Mastercraftsman/ Fame and Glory did it as Group 1 winners
Rainbow View didnt as she hasnt won a Group 1.
I know a P2P that has won 8 races in a row does that make him better than Nijinsky
In your opinion…In My Opinion trained on is carrying on the same level of form or better and since a Group 1 cant improve much.(example winning Group 1s by 4l+) thats is my base for judgement.
So has Rainbow View improved then?….Where are the stats and race results to back up your notion that she has trained on.
And please dont use John Gosden as a resource….he thought that Ravens Pass didnt stay past 7f-1mile last year and we all know what a idiot he turned out to be.
Rainbow View beats Fantasia by 2 1/2L in the Fillies’ Mile.
Elusive Wave beats Fantasia by 2L in the Pouliches.
Rainbow View beats Elusive Wave by 2 1/4L in the Coronation.
And please dont use John Gosden as a resource….he thought that Ravens Pass didnt stay past 7f-1mile last year and we all know what a idiot he turned out to be.
John, I’m utterly fed up of your pathetic games, constantly talking up Irish horses and trainers and talking English horses and trainers done. Gosden made a mistake. Yes, a mistake. Your beloved Aidan O’Brien makes plenty of them too.
O’Brien thought One Cool Cat was a miler. What an idiot!!!!!!!!
O’Brien thought Galileo was a 10f horse. What an idiot!!!!!!!!!
O’Brien thought Hawk Wing was his best miler. What an idiot!!!!!!!!!
"Rainbow View beats Fantasia by 2 1/2L in the Fillies’ Mile.
Elusive Wave beats Fantasia by 2L in the Pouliches.
Rainbow View beats Elusive Wave by 2 1/4L in the Coronation."
Jesus Christ i give up
"O’Brien thought One Cool Cat was a miler. What an idiot!!!!!!!!
O’Brien thought Galileo was a 10f horse. What an idiot!!!!!!!!!
O’Brien thought Hawk Wing was his best miler. What an idiot!!!!!!!!!"
Obviously you dont know anything about Ballydoyle or else you would know Aiden O Brien has absoutely zilch to do with deciding races with his horses.
John Magnier Does.
And didnt he say Henry was his best Miler so your wrong there.
One Cool Cat forgive the lord….that horse was rubbish. Doesnt matter if he sent him for the Champion Chase.
Galileo won dual Derbies…how can you say he was a 10f horse is beyond me other than the fact he was sent to the Champion Stakes for Stud purposes. Another comment skewed to suit your argument.
"John, I’m utterly fed up of your pathetic games, constantly talking up Irish horses"
Yeah except i dont Rate New Approach/Mastercraftsman and Irish National Hunt. My word you really are unbelievable…..talk about talking comments and turning then into a mountain.
"Your beloved Aidan O’Brien makes plenty of them too. "
Yeah coming from the man who idolises him….hows your contact inside Ballydoyle???….didnt you say they said Mastercraftsman was there best Juvenile last year and that you were trying to convince me to back him at 5/1 for the 2000 Guineas 3 weeks before hand when you said you lumped on?.
Or maybe your insider forgot to tell you that RVW was there main Horse and was always number.
2 can play this game….i can dig up a whole pile or shoite you talked to me about horses and paste it all over this forum.
Perhaps even your previous membership would raise some eyebrows….oh wait you told me not to say anything
Connections are adamant Rainbow View has trained on and Jimmy Fortune, when posed the question before the race, provided a quick, positive response.
Form figures mean very little. Rainbow View competed in just one top level race last season – the Fillies’ Mile.
She has competed at the highest in all her five races this campaign and acquitted herself admirably, showing up well in two classics and trips ranging from eight to twelve furlongs.
Has she improved? I think her 1 1/4L defeat by Goldikova (the established Heaven Sent just 1/2L ahead in second) is superior to anything she did as a juvenile.
Rainbow View was obviously a very talented, forward 2YO. Other fillies were not, but possessed greater scope for improvement.
Midday is a prime example. Her solitary victory as a 2YO came courtesy of a short-head victory in a Newmarket maiden. Prior to that effort, she was beaten 1L into third behind Golden Stream. The Sir Michael Stoute trained filly then finished 10L behind the winner of the Fillies’ Mile – Rainbow View.
Today, nearly 3L seperated Midday and Rainbow View. Does that mean Rainbow View has failed to train on? Not necessarily. Midday always looked the type to make a better 3YO – her improvement has just been more substantial than John Gosden’s filly.
It will be interesting to see if she’s around next year. John Gosden, an astute judge, was uncertain if Rainbow View would train on last season, but her efforts this term have no doubt been encouraging, especially when you consider conditions were in her favour today for the first time this season.
Its a matter of opinion Bosranic but one person tries to shove his comments down other peoples mouth.
And ridicules anyone who doesnt agree with his view.
Mind you i thought RV ran a cracker today in fairness. She looked serious trouble 3f out but stayed on well.
Cant believe the market was so wrong with Main Aim out to 7/1 and then backed late….she really did scoot in
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