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- September 1, 2009 at 20:31 #12533
got me database now,cost a bit but very impressive
been firing questions at it for days and finaly come up with a system which is proving the best strike rate over the years.
im trying to keep it simple so you can just make the selection in seconds
again i will do every race to show you the strike rates
this ones very simple,the horse with the fastest time last time out
i started today with this one and todays results
newton 6 races 3 won 2 placed 1 lost
leicester 7 races 4 won 3 placed
ripon 6 races 3 won 1 place 2 lost
September 2, 2009 at 02:33 #246728[quote="mr forecast"
this ones very simple,the horse with the fastest time last time out
How do you find the "fastest" LTO since there are different distances , going, class etc ?
How do you make these times "comparable" ?September 2, 2009 at 03:06 #246733ADJ
TS RPR HORSE/WGT LAST 6 RATINGS BEST TOPSPEED
LAST YR GOING DIST COURSE122 126 Dandy Man 8-9 113 109 69 105 122 113 122 141 141 —
119 124 Angus Newz 8-4 119 100 84 84 71 104 119 122 122 103
111 115 Canadian Danehill 8-12 91 103 111 106 77 82 111 115 115 92
108 106 Brenin Taran 8-11 108 75 72 88 107 53 108 108 108 —
95 127 Peace Offering 8-9 102 52 78 95 94 76 107 134 134 —
75 114 Zuzu 8-3 104 119 59 57 75 66 75 119 66 —go to racing post and open topspeed,then look at the last 6 ratings section,pick the highest number down the last column…………….simples
dandy man is the fastest lto in this race
i do use class in my other systems but with this one its just the lto figure only,
it may mount to nothing but the past stats seem ok so ill give it a go
this only requires one bet per race,if there is more than one figure the same then leave and move on
i would like to write them all down for you but just too busySeptember 2, 2009 at 03:28 #246736new selection system
newton 6 horses 3 won 2 placed 1 lost
leicester 7 horses 4 won 3 placed
ripon 6 horses 3 won 1 place 2 lost
old top two speedster system results
leicester 14 horses 4 won 6 placed 1 forecast 1 reverse forecast
newton 12 horses 4 won 3 placed 2 reverse forecasts
ripon 12 horses 1 won 3 placed no forecasts
as you can see not much difference apart from new system uses 1 horse per race and the old one used two
September 2, 2009 at 08:35 #246747Thanks mr forecst
September 3, 2009 at 13:02 #2468762/sept
results
lingfield
1 speed figure(top lto)
lingfield 1 placed 6 horses 1 non bet
hereford 1 won 2 placed 7 horses 1 non bet
brighton 3 won 1 placed 5 horses 1 non bet
kempton 2 won 2 placed 8 horsestop 2 speed rated
lingfield 1 won 6 placed 14 horses
hereford 3 won 5 placed 16 horses
brighton 4 won 1 placed 12 horses
kempton 1 won 1 placed 16 horsesagain i am finding that certian tracks out perform others
with out my data base its impossible for anyone to know this as i have all the stats for these systemstoday epsom has the lowest win rate but the highest place rate the place rate is 56%
all the other tracks are equal in both win and place which is 40%
going back to jan 09
September 3, 2009 at 13:06 #246877i am running a business now so times no longer on my side, i will try to keep up but proving impossible as my laser engraving and cutting business has taken off quite quickly and is in much demand
September 3, 2009 at 13:22 #246880mr forecast
The figure you are using is a useful one, but it won’t produce a profit over a long period I’m afraid. I’ve tested it in the past, about ten years ago, over a long period in the summer and it lost about 10% on level stakes on a large sample.I think that the loss will be greater at present due to the poorer margins for backers compared with ten years ago.
Apart from the fact your’e betting in nearly every race, the figure takes no account of today’s conditions(going, distance etc.) or how long ago that rating was achieved.
On a more positive note, it will give you some very good- priced winners and is suitable for those who want an interest and have no time to study form in detail. Also, selective use of the figure can certainly improve profitability. If you specify something like:
highest figure
has to be within last 60 days
distance within 1f
going similar
right hand or left hand track
odds no less than number of runners divided by 4(handicaps) or 5(non-handicaps)the qualifiers should push you very close to profit.
September 3, 2009 at 14:22 #246888my data base does have the going (ground) and i do use this,so far i am in profit
when i done the forecast the top two in every race it produced 500 points in its first month and is still showing a good profit to date
i now have my own speed figures which do not reflect the speed figures that are shown on racing post so i admit i have a massive advantage than most
i sit here and will trade out if not happy or just trade on the horse which gives me a free bet..theres so much more to this but all i hope is that i am pointing people in the right direction…………….
i dont bet on every race just show the results for every race……i know what tracks to bet on and which ones to avoid(or lay)……which again is showing excellent profits
i do admit that if you bet on every race of every track then you would see massive losses a certian tracks and massive profits on others which when evened out doesnt mount to much
my database is soley ment for speed and fractional times,but it does show jockey and trainer stats as well as the going,the left and right,the weight and all dates
again all i hope is that i am pointing people in the right direction so they can see that by using speed figures is a very powerfull tool if understood and used correctly, add fractional times to a speed figure and you will not believe the strike rates produced
we are a long way behind with these figures but they are catching up and i have seen my speed horses keep dropping in price to well below evens
we are now in autumn were pace and speed figures is the key you will find that most front runners will win over the next few months on races below 1 mil 3 f………….watch the races and the horse which leads after 2f will produce the best strike rates…………it changes throught out the year depending on flat ,jump ect
i urge all of you to make your own databases and produce your own angle of expertise
ps..the going speed figure does not explain what track it was achieved….the course figure does not tell you the going……the top speed figure could be 2yrs old….this is why more investigating will be needed
September 3, 2009 at 22:15 #246960got me database now,cost a bit but very impressive
Hi Mate, which database are you using?
Kevin
September 4, 2009 at 02:02 #246996hello stranger were you been kevin,hope your still on racing trends
i had to use proform racing as to say its all beyond me is an understatement
10 years data for 40 quid then the data base costs but me mates put it all in something sql….csf files or something like that
plus my office spread sheets which i built with the figures
nicked bits from here and there,you know how it isSeptember 4, 2009 at 02:16 #247001The highlighted pace horses have been going well recently.
Are you going to subscribe to keep the database upto date or were you just interested in the historical data?
All the Best
Kevin
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