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- August 7, 2010 at 16:41 #15884
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Seeing some bizarrely ugly and unfamiliar colours flagged up for the Elite Racing Club runner (Peace Corps) in the 4:00, it looks as if we’re in for another attempt to turn racing into something it is not.
The entire Windsor card is apparently football themed, with league tables, reserves and all. Sigh… I can only hope poor J.A.McGrath isn’t on duty again, poor man!
Someone please tell me I am wrong….
August 7, 2010 at 16:51 #311531
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At least football is something a great number of people can identify with, rather than a mish-mash of familiar and unfamiliar names supposedly riding for ‘their team’ when in reality their loyalty remains to connections (as Mr Hughes and Ms Turner so kindly illustrated at Ascot).
Don’t get me wrong the concept doesn’t thrill me, but it has a much better chance of attracting a new audience (one of less advanced years in particular) than the Shergar Cup.
August 7, 2010 at 16:56 #311532
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Don’t get me wrong the concept doesn’t thrill me, but it has a much better chance of attracting a new audience (one of less advanced years in particular) than the Shergar Cup.
What’s your evidence for that? Threadneedle Street to a China Orange, that the usual large, enthusiastic and knowledgeable Windsor Monday crowd will simply be cheesed off by yet another condescending and half-baked attempt to pretend Racing is something it isn’t, and ignore everything it is.
I’m certainly irritated that I won’t be able to see my Club colours on my horse tomorrow, as you may sense!
And, by the way, the media obsession with Fu’bol is
not
mirrored in the feelings of the majority of the population, who remain blithely indifferent to the self-styled "beautiful game" and its trivia. And, yes, there is statistical evidence to that effect.
August 7, 2010 at 17:23 #311538
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Why are you addressing me as though I’m somehow to blame for this particular event?
As I said before I’m not thrilled with the idea of racing being diluted by initiatives (if you can call them that) such as this, but then again I don’t see myself as entirely representative of the race-going population either. I can, therefore, see the merit of using internationally recognised football strips in place of the more traditional silks with a view to attracting a currently dormant audience.
August 7, 2010 at 18:38 #311543Oh, good grief.
Chill out, lighten up & if you don’t like it don’t watch it.
The Ebor meeting is just around the corner, it isn’t like if you’re a purist, there isn’t some serious racing on the way.
(28,000 at Ascot today by the way. Whether the Shergar Cup attracts newcomers or not is open to debate but it certainly isn’t turning people away)
August 7, 2010 at 20:48 #311565
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Oh, good grief. Chill out, lighten up & if you don’t like it don’t watch it.
I think for any owner being able to watch your horse run in your own colours is rather important, don’t you?
Sorry to be "negative", but if you really think it’s somehow amusing, "lighthearted" or unimportant to see Racing attempting to ape football, then I’m afraid I must respectfully decline to mimic your mindset.
You’ll doubtless think this is another "pompous" or "over-serious" post: but I speak from the heart when I tell you that unless somebody, somewhere has the courage to stand up and draw attention to the real harm being done by these continual "dumbing down" assaults on so many aspects of our national life – Racing is only one strand – from weak-minded marketing muppets dancing to the tune of the corporate suits, then something priceless in our national freedoms is at stake.
Great oaks from little acorns grow, but the reverse is also true: great cancers may grow from one, tiny cell. You don’t notice at first, but one day you wake up too sick to do anything about it.
And that, you’ll be glad to hear, is my last word on this thread.
August 7, 2010 at 21:19 #311567Oh, good grief. Chill out, lighten up & if you don’t like it don’t watch it.
I think for any owner being able to watch your horse run in your own colours is rather important, don’t you?
Sorry to be "negative", but if you really think it’s somehow amusing, "lighthearted" or unimportant to see Racing attempting to ape football, then I’m afraid I must respectfully decline to mimic your mindset.
You’ll doubtless think this is another "pompous" or "over-serious" post: but I speak from the heart when I tell you that unless somebody, somewhere has the courage to stand up and draw attention to the real harm being done by these continual "dumbing down" assaults on so many aspects of our national life – Racing is only one strand – from weak-minded marketing muppets dancing to the tune of the corporate suits, then something priceless in our national freedoms is at stake.
Great oaks from little acorns grow, but the reverse is also true: great cancers may grow from one, tiny cell. You don’t notice at first, but one day you wake up too sick to do anything about it.
And that, you’ll be glad to hear, is my last word on this thread.
Oh, don’t be so over-dramatic.
When I first started betting on racing I had one golden rule, if it stops being enjoyable, find something else to do with your time.
There are over 1500 meetings in 2010. Am I suggesting that they all be gimmicky? Is anyone suggesting that? No they aren’t.
If you’re going to throw your toys out of the pram, find yourself something else to do.
August 7, 2010 at 21:35 #311573
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When I first started betting on racing I had one golden rule, if it stops being enjoyable, find something else to do with your time.
There are over 1500 meetings in 2010. Am I suggesting that they all be gimmicky? Is anyone suggesting that? No they aren’t.
If you’re going to throw your toys out of the pram, keep it to yourself.
How different we are. When I first became interested in Racing, I had one golden rule – the more involved you are, the better the fun. And the better the fun, the more you resent it when people who aren’t as seriously involved start watering it down in the name of making it "accessible".
By the way, I don’t have a pram these days, and always cherished my toys far too much to throw them out of it when I did have one. I’m very happy to debate with you, but please don’t feel the need to be rude.
August 7, 2010 at 21:52 #311579The PFA-partnered Football Furlong event is the one day of the year when the sports of football and horse racing come together. All the jockeys wear the representative generic colours of the 20 Premiership football clubs rather than the traditional silks of the owners of the horses they are riding. Horses and jockeys accrue points for the teams which go towards a league table throughout the day. Football Furlong was first won by Tottenham Hotspur at the inaugural event in 2004. It’s a fun day out, now in it’s 7th year & I see nothing wrong with that!
August 7, 2010 at 21:52 #311580When I first started betting on racing I had one golden rule, if it stops being enjoyable, find something else to do with your time.
There are over 1500 meetings in 2010. Am I suggesting that they all be gimmicky? Is anyone suggesting that? No they aren’t.
If you’re going to throw your toys out of the pram, keep it to yourself.
How different we are. When I first became interested in Racing, I had one golden rule – the more involved you are, the better the fun. And the better the fun, the more you resent it when people who aren’t as seriously involved start watering it down in the name of making it "accessible".
By the way, I don’t have a pram these days, and always cherished my toys far too much to throw them out of it when I did have one. I’m very happy to debate with you, but please don’t feel the need to be rude.
Ok, I apologise for being rude. That was uncalled for. Though you should have seen it before I’d gone back & edited it a couple of times.
I think there’s enough room in racing (and cricket & music) for the low brow ‘kiss kiss bang bang’ version as well as the high brow pure version.
I’m going to stop responding to this thread too & as I’ve got the same argument going in two threads!
August 7, 2010 at 21:55 #311581Quote Pinza: bizarrely ugly and unfamiliar colours flagged up – Wolverhampton Wanderer’s actually!
August 7, 2010 at 21:56 #311584Quote Pinza: bizarrely ugly and unfamiliar colours flagged up – Wolverhampton Wanderer’s actually!
And I’m sure he stands by his original quote!
August 7, 2010 at 22:14 #311596Oh ye of little faith! Orange is THE colour this season!
It’s just struck me re the ‘debate’ on this thread. The horse is called Peace Corps!August 8, 2010 at 08:41 #311655And that, you’ll be glad to hear, is my last word on this thread.
Oh no it’s not

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