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hi.i have been reading the forum for a couple of months now and with enjoying the reading decided to join up.among other accounts i hold a credit account with william hill with any outstanding bets under £20 not needing to be settled.recently i was made redundant and have not been able to afford as many bets.last week i received a snotty letter from biily hills demanding my outstanding £15 i owe reason being i am not using the account any more!in just a few months i have gone from being a MUCH VALUED CUSTOMER who got sent diaries etc to a scumbag who owes them a fortune! lol! i have a good mind not to pay them at all what do other members think please.
And you believed you were a much valued customer because they sent you a diary? If they want you to pay up then you are going to have to I’m afraid.
So you’ve had a bet, lost £15 (hardly a fortune) and don’t expect to have to pay it back when, by your own admission, you don’t use the service any more?
Try that one on your credit card company and see what they say.
Tell you what Kev – you lend me £15 and I promise you I will not pay it back to you.
Why the hell should you not pay the money you owe?
I agree with what everyone is saying debts SHOULD be honored, but the post says outstanding bets under £20 do not need to be settled, obviously Kev doesn’t say if that’s a temporary measure and that you have to pay at a later date(which obviously he will), but I do find it a bit strange when bookies are chasing people for 15 quid, I thought they were more honourable and understanding
Yeah exactly, if they said outstanding bets under £20 need not be settled then don’t pay. Hope you have proof of this such as letter or something. Threaten to take it further if you do.
It’s all very well saying it’s ‘only’ £15 but things like that get my back up so it’s principle. Good luck! and welcome to the forum
im glad somebody understood my point.i did not say i was not going to pay and i didnt say i wasnt using my account and obviously "valued customer" was my bit of sarcasm.it is their rules about amounts under £20 not mine. because they thought they might not be seeing any more bets they thought they would try and put the sqeeze on.thank you rockytony and kautostar 1 for reading correctly and not jumping to conclusions.yes i agree £15 isnt much to pay up so why chase it unnecessarily?
Ah the Bookmakers’ Credit Account, that proud debt of honour and lingering vestige from the days prior to 1961 when off-course cash betting was illegal and a gentleman’s word was his bond.
Cough up old chap
the poor fellas been made redundant. £15 to some people is a few days worth of food so why should he pay up? Try writing to them, explain the situation and they may waver it. I may be naive but if they say one thing, why are they allowed to change their mind at a later date?
Seriously i wouldn’t pay it on principle. Greedy swines.
Go and find a heroic arber. Any major charity dinner should be a good bet as these people are selfless heroes. Have a chat with them and I’m sure some agreement could be reached where they’ll settle your debt in return for use of the account.
I guarantee somewhere in the T&C’s it will say Hills can ask for the money they are owed at any time. Otherwise everyone would have a £19.99 bet and never pay.
The carrying forward of small amounts is on the assumption that the account remains active and is for mutual convenience. It sounds as though the account has been inactive for a while and, to my mind not unreasonably, Hills want you to settle up. As you acknowledge that you owe them the money, the only honest thing to do is to pay up.
Not only is it the honest thing to do, it is the prudent thing to do. If you don’t, you may find you are listed as a bad credit risk and that may effect you adversely at some future point when seeking a loan, applying for a new credit card or whatever.
Sympathies over the redundancy but I’ve no sympathy whatsoever with not paying a debt you acknowledge.
It has been suggested (not by you) that finding £15 may be a problem. Anyone who finds it difficult to pay a trivial debt like £15 debt, even if redundant, shouldn’t be betting and almost certainly shouldn’t have been when in work as they have clearly failed to make any provision against contingencies.
get someone to phone and say you died, that should do it.
Might try that with my credit cards. Nice one!
Hi Kevbarn
So we can assume that had your account been £14.99 in credit you would not have asked for the money and since you weren’t using the account left it there for ever. The carrying forward rules are to avoid the expense of cheques for small amounts when you are using the account all the time they don’t mean you don’t have to pay when you stop using the account. It’s quite unlikely that your former employer informed them of your redundancy so in all probability they didn’t know even if they did it wouldn’t alter the situation a debt is a debt in spite of what Kautostar1 appears to think
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