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  • #314559
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Very good interesting read this thread. Made a great start Billion well done.

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    #314570
    mal1964
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    theres one thing i can never understand in the betting forcast in the newspapers " why do they not all agree , some of the time they are vastley different " the answer is prob simple , but sometimes they dont even agree slightly with each other.
    I only use the racing post only because i use my laptop and i find it easy , is it a daft question to ask " are there any better " that i can look at .
    Good luck everyone

    #314573
    billion
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    Wednesday August 25

    Slipped quiety out of the Essex Badlands late in the afternoon yesterday and so now connected to the very slow wi-fi but will do my best to keep up to date.

    Thanks

    Nathan

    , yes it was great but sadly with all experiments the minimum shilling only was wagered.

    Today I think we all much about agree on selections but I was unable to get into the RP to check if favourites.

    Colepeper had moved out of the 2/1 requirement to 9/4 so for me is a missed bet.

    Bangor 8.00 WHAT A SCIENTIST 13/8 – 6/1 Odds Checker

    Won 5/2

    Bet at 13/8 Wm. Hill (Best Odds Guaranteed

    )

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    #314575
    billion
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    mal1964

    I am not sure if there is a definitive answer to what you are asking but it does look as if the newspapers are outsourcing from an agency (Cutting costs as per the modern world) because as you say they do look to have a very similar shape. I have recently checked MAIL, SUN & EXPRESS all on the same day with very little difference and identical for most races.

    For me this is a great improvement on the Mail’s past betting forecasts when they were (I thought) wildly different and very very different from the resulting s.p’s.

    How do the RP stack up?

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    #314582
    mal1964
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    First of all Billion well done on your selection results , having looked at your picks lead me to wonder why i had more or different selections . The reason i asked the question about the forcasted fave was because i use the racing post which for the last 2 days have given 10 picks of which 6 have won and 2 have placed . If i was to worke on a points system it would mean i would be 6 pionts up , its interesting to see if i had used a newspaper ( any one of them ) if i would of had more or less selections .
    I think you may be on to something here Billion and its godd to see where the selections are comming from and which ones do perform the best .
    For eg i have 6 selections today from the RP but if i say baught the Sun it may have been more or less .

    #314602
    billion
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    And already it is Good Afternoon

    mal1964

    I have just managed to get a signal strong enough to get into the RP and can only find 3 selections: –

    Ffos Las 5.20 RUSSIAN WAR 13/8 to 3/1

    Bangor 6.00 POINTS OF VIEW 2/1 to 6/1

    Bangor 8.00 WHAT A SCIENTIST 6/4 TO 11/2

    All 3 won @ 11/4 – 5/2 – 5/2

    The rules (guidlines) are take any forecast Favourite at a min. price of Evens (1/1) with a required gap as I posted.

    The Fav. although must be a min. of 1/1 should be no bigger than 2/1, therefore any Odds On or bigger than 2/1 are not counted and cannot be selected.

    I thought you may include the Irish but did not find any there either.

    Are therefore including any at a forecast price of Odds On? Or bigger than 2/1?

    The debate or even the excersise is to find out if sticking to the rules proves better or going with the market.

    It further suggests if going with the market figures close to the off the bet is void should the selection go Odds On.

    I hope this has helped.

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    mal1964
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    it sure as , thanks billion

    #314620
    Avatar photoelcartero
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    Selections for Thursday 26th August 2010 (Sporting Life)

    3.20 Ffos Las Desert Poppy 15/8 next 6/1…..Lost
    4.00 Lingfield Lang Shining 5/4 next 4/1…..Won 2/5
    4.30 Lingfield Lyric Poet 15/8 next 5/1……Won 2/1
    6.25 Cartmel Magical Legend 2/1 next 4/1…..Won 4/5

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    #314635
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    Well done to the RP with 3 from 3 :D

    elcartero

    and The Sporting Life 2 from 2 :D

    Old dunce me with 1 from 1 :oops:

    However, what a good day :D

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    ……surprisingly good prices, Billion.
    and well done to you for initiating the thread…let’s hope we can build on a promising start!

    Well done to the RP with 3 from 3 :D

    elcartero

    and The Sporting Life 2 from 2 :D

    Old dunce me with 1 from 1 :oops:

    However, what a good day :D

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    #314686
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    Thursday August 26

    Just the one selection from myself (Mr. Belt & Braces) today.

    Lingfield 4.30 LYRIC POET (11/10 – 11/2 Mail) RP fv.
    available 13/8 Bet365

    WON 2/1

    I had Desert Poppy (3.20 Ffos Las) at 7/4 – 6/1 but Odds Checker closed the gap to 2/1 – 5/2


    Also

    Lang Shining (4.00 Lingfield) 5/4 – 4/1 but again Odds Checker was 1/2 odds on

    Therefore both were passed by

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    Hi billion…….PM sent….

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    #314721
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    Pick of the RP for Wednesday

    2.50 Ffos Las HUMDRUM (1/1 – 5/2)

    2nd 1/1

    3.00 Lingfield FITYAAN (11/10 – 5/1)

    2nd 5/6

    4.00 Lingfield LANG SHINING (11/10 – 8/1)

    Won O/O

    What do you think

    elcartero

    should these score under the system rules????

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    #314725
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    Don’t see why not, Billion…they are all qualifiers. Pity that the seconditis has kicked in again.
    Sporting Life overnight selections are 2 out of 3 at the moment and reasonably hopeful for Magical Legend in the 6.25 at Cartmel to give me a small treble.

    Pick of the RP for Wednesday

    2.50 Ffos Las HUMDRUM (1/1 – 5/2)

    2nd 1/1

    3.00 Lingfield FITYAAN (11/10 – 5/1)

    2nd 5/6

    4.00 Lingfield LANG SHINING (11/10 – 8/1)

    Won O/O

    What do you think

    elcartero

    should these score under the system rules????

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    Selections for Friday 27th August 2010 (Sporting Life)

    4.45 Bath Green Pearl 7/4 next 6/1
    6.35 Hamilton Tamarillo Grove 11/8 next 7/2

    If I had been prepared to bend the rules by just a fraction there would have been several more selections.
    Perhaps they may be highlighted by another source.

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    #314758
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    R.P. = 4/6, S/Life = 5/6 and Odds Checker = 2/2

    Please correct me

    elcartero

    if you spot any errors. Lang Shining incl. despite being odds on but many may have included it in a multiple bet.

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    #314771
    Avatar photoelcartero
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    Looks good, Billion….keep up the good work. Hopefully others will join in and monitor different sources.
    Lang Shining was 5/4 in the Life so qualifies…


    R.P. = 4/6, S/Life = 5/6 and Odds Checker = 2/2

    Please correct me

    elcartero

    if you spot any errors. Lang Shining incl. despite being odds on but many may have included it in a multiple bet.

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