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Only now – 5 days before Bush gets handed his jotters -does David Milliband come out and say that the "War on Terror" was a mistake.
What an undiluted wankbag.
He also criticised a certain attack within Iraq saying it was "totally unjustified" – knowing full well the reasons behind it.
Without doubt the attacks on Al Quaeda in Pakistan and Afganistan have severely weakened their leadership at crucial times. There have been some great results
The toppling of the Taleban was essential too. If they had still been in place, there would have been a secure base for Bin laden and others to train and build their forces. Many British muslims went over there for indoctrination (although they claimed to be there for Stag parties and so on…). It was an intense breeding ground
No one can be absolutely certain what the situation would have been if we had (as the left wing muslim worshippers and the tothicktothinkitthrough brigade wanted) taken no action at all, but i believe that was not an option
I don’t dispute any of that, clivex. My objections have always centred around the ridiculous engagement in Iraq, and the fact that it diluted our ability to tackle the real menace further east.
I posted about Milliband because the prick chooses only now to dismiss the War On Terror……..as Bush prepares to leave the scene…………rather than challenge it at the time Bush’s Adminstration was commencing it’s base-less war in Iraq.
Milliband clearly towed the Blair-line throughout those momentous decision-making days of 2002-2003 for matters of total self-interest, rather than letting what was best for the country he purports to serve as a member of Her Majesty’s Government, determine his actions.
That’s what makes him a wankbag, imo.
I agree.
Im not keen on him at all frankly. He has "positioned himself" (no laughing at the back please…) a little too skillfully for my liking on occasions
On another note, the more i listen to Vincent Cable, the more impressed i become
A bit biased because hes my local MP and (haviong me t him a couple of times) a lovely bloke to boot. But definately no ones fool…..
The boy David is that unpleasant and dangerous creature: the ambitious politician. A blinkered vision focused solely on 10 Downing Street. As such he is only going to mutter what he actually believes when it’s in his own interests to do so
Agree that Vincent Cable is an able, amiable chap who, what’s more, actually appears to have a thorough understanding of the subject he’s been allocated to comment on. Brown in his quest for a "government of all the talents" would have been well advised to bring him into the cabinet rather than ennobling some ex-banker, as I believe he’s gone and done recently.
I don’t dispute any of that, clivex. My objections have always centred around the ridiculous engagement in Iraq, and the fact that it diluted our ability to tackle the real menace further east.
I posted about Milliband because the prick chooses only now to dismiss the War On Terror……..as Bush prepares to leave the scene…………rather than challenge it at the time Bush’s Adminstration was commencing it’s base-less war in Iraq.
Milliband clearly towed the Blair-line throughout those momentous decision-making days of 2002-2003 for matters of total self-interest, rather than letting what was best for the country he purports to serve as a member of Her Majesty’s Government, determine his actions.
That’s what makes him a wankbag, imo.
.. I totally agree with all of that.
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I’m still chuckling at the labelling of Milliband as a ‘wankbag’.
Good stuff, though finding a way to incorporate the term serpentine (or similar) would be thoroughly befitting of the man.
It always disappoints me that these people are clearly incredibly bright (perhaps less obvious is some), yet choose to spend their time devising ever-more sly ways to manoeuvre themselves into cushy positions rather than attempting to tackle the subject(s) at hand.
In the case of Milliband’s comments regarding the war in Iraq, I would have thought Labour’s big hitters are slowly trying to distance themselves from the ailing Brown – Darling partnership. Both have proven themselves to be incapable of holding such high office, the former’s antics of the last ten years finally catching up with him on the back of the collapse of the US financial system.
All I need to see now is David Cameron, or indeed the aforementioned Vince Cable, addressing Parliament with an opening of ‘I put it to the Prime Minister that David ‘Kaa’ Milliband is indeed a wankbag’.
The joy it would bring
It always disappoints me that these people are clearly incredibly bright (perhaps less obvious is some),
or are they fairly bright but very ambitious and extremely diligent and disciplined?
The VERY bright tend not to be any of the above
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I took care to distinguish ‘bright’ from the far more complimentary ‘intelligent’, as one lends itself particularly well to the manipulative, almost Machiavellian nature of politicians.
Intelligence doesn’t necessarily go hand-in-hand with common-sense, or indeed integrity. Millipede is no doubt a chap who can pass exams or give the eggheads a run for their money, but Grasshopper is right – he’s a wankbag.
He knows there will be an inquest into how the war started and the made up dossier will come out .. he’s just planning a future Labour leader move, precisely and cynically, like any wankbag would.
I’ve always been of the view this was very much Blair’s baby (not that I’m excusing any of the Cabinet). IMV he viewed the Iraq War as an opportunity to make history for himself on a world stage. I also believe that at the time he had become bored with British domestic policy, perhaps in the belief that New Labour had achieved its aims or more likely a realisation that those aims were unachievable. This was his chance for world historic greatness.
The whole thing stinks
"Wankbag" – not a word I’ve come across before but I like.
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So we’re agreed, ‘wankbag’ is most definitely the way to go?
Perhaps it should be put forward for topical entry into the next edition of the OED – a political bouncebackability, if you will.
The definition need only be two words.
So we have no ambitious people on here who’ve never towed the line because it was in their interest to do so?
I know I have…Whilst I agree about Milliband I can’t help thinking that plenty of people operate in a similar way but just not in the public eye.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’ve never actually seen David Milliband and Tim Henman in the same place at the same time together….
Maybe Mrs. Greenshoots should be replaced by Greg Rusedski??
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