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On RUK this morning they asked if Denman would be Gold Cup favourite after today.
I emailed in saying ( 13.00hrs ) that i think McCoy is not a BIG race rider anymore especially at the festival…..& i was very concerned if he rides Denman at Cheltenham…, he’s only rode one maybe two winners at the festival over the last few years & how much longer can he bluff it???Yes he rides winners day in – day out, but his over aggresive style of riding & trying too hard at the BIG meetings seems to have a negative affect on his mounts…..
So Sam Thomas had a few unfortunate mis-haps at Aintree a few years back, he was blamed….but surely after McCoy parting with Denman today…..what did Sam Thomas do wrong & surely should retain the ride…
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I agree Sam did very little wrong and I was in his camp 100% to get the ride.
others than that Bull$hit!!!!!!!!!!!
Whether you think he is or not you would hardly be running out of ink writing up a recent list of big race winners. If as a punter you want to ignore facts that is up to you.
Even today the Totesport almost went west but fortunately the horse was effectively little more than a steering job.
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You’re the one ignoring the facts. AP like everyone suffered a bit with the weather and loss of meetings but his strike rate is as per usual. In fact it’s the highest it’s been for 3 years.
You give him the horse fitand well and he wins it’s that simple. Now Get Me Out Of Here sick to death of people bumping their gums and talking tripe
I am talking about his big race strike rate which I guess is hovering around zero.
His overall strike rate obviously owes a great deal to his agent and his own desire to ride any type of winner.
AP McCoy is undoubtedly the best jockey of the past 15yrs, Ruby might be the best in the last 5yrs mind but still AP F****d up today big time,thats racing! Ray clemance did the same against Scotland! Van der Velde did it in the Open! the list is endless! We all do it sometimes!I liked the way Ruby blamed himself for Master Mindeds howler at the last today when it was blatantly obvious the horse put down on him! AP should have done the same! Hands up when you"re wrong!
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Stilvi without even thinking I know Ruby Walsh and Barry Gerahty have higher winning averages as will Paddy Brennan have but what does that prove. That RW and BG ride for the two top yards in the country and Paddy Brenan has been lucky to be associated with some good horses.
Jonjo lost his two best horses last season so opportunities for AP to ride top class animals is a bit thin in the ground but he still brings in well over a million quid a year for his owners.
Tell you what Stilvi name me 3 horses in Graded races this season AP should have won on and didn’t.
If you can’t, do give it a rest mate. Your talking about the winningmost NH jockey in history like he was some kind of plonker.
PS I still think Ruby is a better jockey technically but as they say in Ireland there’s only one Ruby Walsh
Mcoy should have nursed the horse home today after the first mistake his aggresive riding afterwards did the horse no favours .
Denman is fragile mentally once a bad mistake has been made he goes to pieces ,needs a jockey who understands him.
Bring on Sam.I have said it before and i will say it again
McCoy is not a patch on Ruby Walsh and to a lesser extent Barry Gerathy.
One of the worst rides ever seen today….asks the horse for a big jump at after a bone crunching mistake at the previous fence is a no brainer.
I have said it before and i will say it again
McCoy is not a patch on Ruby Walsh and to a lesser extent Barry Gerathy.
One of the worst rides ever seen today….asks the horse for a big jump at after a bone crunching mistake at the previous fence is a no brainer.
So, in your opinion, he should have just pulled the horse up?
I have said it before and i will say it again
McCoy is not a patch on Ruby Walsh and to a lesser extent Barry Gerathy.
One of the worst rides ever seen today….asks the horse for a big jump at after a bone crunching mistake at the previous fence is a no brainer.
Look at the race again, Wallace No7…………..McCoy was a passenger, expecting the horse to put in another stride three out…………the stride never came……….it was all about the horse deciding to take off – McCoy didn’t even ride him into the fence.
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Not sure I’d agree with that Grassy, AP was definitely asking the horse to quicken amd gave him a few backhanders down the neck. Even in his supposed defence of AP, John Francome admitted that some jockeys might have allowed the horse to find his feet and pop the next before serving it up to Denman quite so soon.
While I wouldn’t join in the wholesale castigation of AP, I’d be fairly sure that a number of other jockeys would have made a better fist of it at that particular juncture.Reet, I think the only reason McCoy ‘got after’ (‘shook-up’ a better description, imo) Denman, was because he knew he was in trouble. Can’t see that there was much else he could do in the circumstances.
Re the 3rd last, I stand by my comments – Denman took off of his own volition – McCoy didn’t boot him into it, as far as I can see.
Stilvi without even thinking I know Ruby Walsh and Barry Gerahty have higher winning averages as will Paddy Brennan have but what does that prove. That RW and BG ride for the two top yards in the country and Paddy Brenan has been lucky to be associated with some good horses.
Jonjo lost his two best horses last season so opportunities for AP to ride top class animals is a bit thin in the ground but he still brings in well over a million quid a year for his owners.
Tell you what Stilvi name me 3 horses in Graded races this season AP should have won on and didn’t.
If you can’t, do give it a rest mate. Your talking about the winningmost NH jockey in history like he was some kind of plonker.
PS I still think Ruby is a better jockey technically but as they say in Ireland there’s only one Ruby Walsh
I think our definitions of major races are different. There is usually at least one lucrative handicap every Saturday and theoretically these are the races where jockeyship can be worth a few pounds.
He is never short of rides at the major Festivals but has increasingly struggled to land more than the odd winner. I don’t think anyone is expecting him turn over the likes of Kauto Star throughout the season.
Come on stuff like this happens. It’s not like he took the wrong course or anything.
I’d still give him the leg up.
FIST, you asked tell me three graded races McCoy was on a decent animal & came nowhere
Well near enough all his rides at the last few Cheltenham festivals is a good start….any punter who follows him at Cheltenham must go broke….He actually broke my heart two years ago because i backed him not to ride a winner & he did manage 1 winner from 20 odd rides & all supposed to have a good chance…..
Barry Geraghty being praised at the moment but it doesn’t seem so long ago that people were slagging him off, suggesting things like that he had lost his bottle…..and wasn’t it just this season he was rubbished for taking the wrong course at Wetherby.
Short, short memories.
Wouldn’t know enough about the niceities of race-riding to know whether McCoy can take any blame for what happened but Denman appeared to empty very quickly after the mistake. A bit worrying for his supportes, surely?
Colin
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