The home of intelligent horse racing discussion
The home of intelligent horse racing discussion

master of the hall !!

Home Forums Horse Racing master of the hall !!

Viewing 14 posts - 1 through 14 (of 14 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #17356
    Avatar photokevg487
    Member
    • Total Posts 32

    I hope everyone listened to me and got on at a good price, sp wasn’t too shaby 2/1 , i’ll have that any day!!

    1 tip, 1 winner… Good start to my betting week…

    Now lets have it all on liverpool tonight!!

    #337764
    Avatar photoMaxilon 5
    Member
    • Total Posts 2432

    You seem to know what you’re talking bout, chief. I’ve got some questions.

    Why is it, Kev, that when you

    watch

    an apprentice jockey – say, Ryan Powell, or Ryan Clark – and you watch them win, they all look like a future Steve Cauthen.

    And when you

    back

    them, they all look a future Dale Gibson. I’ve noticed that for years. It’s like an optical illusion, like the Northern Lights and that.

    And Lingfield, Kev. Is there a case for

    Course Pacemakers?

    A stable of three furlong horses owned by the track to ensure that races are, like, proper

    horse races

    rather than the military two step they’ve become since New Year. A three mile chase is usually faster run than anything at Leafy, something which is driving me to drink, Kev, meowd.

    Pace. How important is pace and speed? I reckon it’s very important. Very important indeed. More important than remembering your umbrella on a rainy day, or having a good nights sleep before festival meetings.

    Oh well…Lingfield has become yet again an embarrassing blot on the artificial surface edifice, Kev. I reckon so, anyroad.

    What do you reckon? Any thoughts? I was hitting dem bookies bigger than the tail of a big whale landing on a passing seal.

    #337766
    Avatar photokevg487
    Member
    • Total Posts 32

    Firtstly i’ll start on apprentices, my opinion is that it is the horse who makes them look good and they only get these rides because of their claim! I tend to stay away from apprentices as much as i can although Mania is a cracking little rider!

    On to Lingers, i really cant stick racing on the sand, its bad! Ofet the horse who is last will win mainly due to the stupid gallops set by these horses out in front..

    Time & pace i guess is important but i feel getting a horse settled, in balance and on a good stride helps alot..

    Americans pay alot more attention to times, speed and pace of races.. Maybe you could research this..

    Any joy today mate?

    #337777
    Irish Stamp
    Member
    • Total Posts 3176

    Thanks Kev.

    Not sure I could have found Master Of The Hall without your amazing insight.

    Keep up the good work

    #337792
    Avatar photokevg487
    Member
    • Total Posts 32

    No probs my friend..

    I’ll keep u posted, got a few for tomorrow :)

    #337794
    Avatar photoHimself
    Participant
    • Total Posts 3777

    Thanks Kev.

    Not sure I could have found Master Of The Hall without your amazing insight.

    Keep up the good work

    I’m sure you speak for everyone. :wink: How on earth could Kev possibly have unearthed Master Of The Hall from such a competitive field. :shock: :lol:

    Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning

    #337796
    Avatar photokevg487
    Member
    • Total Posts 32

    I love your sarcasm!

    Like i said 2/1 will do me anyday!!

    U got a stick on for 2moro or u don’t disclose your selections if you have any that is ;)

    #337812
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    • Total Posts 17716

    :roll: this belongs tucked away in lays and plasys….well done on Master of The Hall only 3,456,891 people other than you backed it.

    #337815
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    • Total Posts 17716

    Fun though, Fist! Looks as if

    kevg487

    hasn’t previously encountered the concept of

    Irony

    (dramatic or otherwise).

    #337870
    apracing
    Participant
    • Total Posts 4015

    Think if I’d backed a winner at a whole point under the best price, I’d be less keen to shout about it and claim it as a good SP.

    For info Kev, Betfair SP was 4.24 and the horse was freely offered at that price and bigger prior to the off. Even if you pay 5% commission, that better than 3/1 fixed odds.

    Quite a rare event in my experience, as the insiders at the Henderson yard are usually spot on when one of theirs drifts from 2.4 to 4.3 in the last 30 minutes of trading.

    AP

    #337887
    Avatar photoCav
    Participant
    • Total Posts 4833

    Quite a rare event in my experience, as the insiders at the Henderson yard are usually spot on when one of theirs drifts from 2.4 to 4.3 in the last 30 minutes of trading.

    Slightly off kilter, but a decent article in the Sunday Indo recently, regarding exchange movements at the recent King George fixture.

    http://www.independent.ie/sport/horse-r … 07422.html

    #337889
    Avatar photokasparov
    Member
    • Total Posts 660

    These late price movements are a fact of life and they often seem to be revealing. However, I read somewhere that Betfair did a study once of steamers and drifters and concluded that the steamers didn’t do any better than the drifters at starting prices. (Obviously if you know what’s going to steam, then you will make money, but blindly backing the thing that shortened most prior to the start isn’t a winning strategy.)

    The thing I find strange though is why the moves come so late. If, for example, you know at 10am you’re onto a good thing surely you would plonk your money down then rather than risk other people front running you.

    #337891
    Avatar photoTuffers
    Member
    • Total Posts 1402

    These late price movements are a fact of life and they often seem to be revealing. However, I read somewhere that Betfair did a study once of steamers and drifters and concluded that the steamers didn’t do any better than the drifters at starting prices. (Obviously if you know what’s going to steam, then you will make money, but blindly backing the thing that shortened most prior to the start isn’t a winning strategy.)

    The thing I find strange though is why the moves come so late. If, for example, you know at 10am you’re onto a good thing surely you would plonk your money down then rather than risk other people front running you.

    Isn’t the late volume a combination of the bookies balancing their books and the automated trading systems jumping on the bandwagon?

    #337892
    Avatar phototbracing
    Participant
    • Total Posts 1453

    Simple, liquidity.

Viewing 14 posts - 1 through 14 (of 14 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.