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    Avatar photoZarkava
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    You’d need to go back to 1992 to find a winner who hadn’t run in the Arkle, save for 2001 (foot and mouth). Osana’s the only runner who ran in the Arkle, 3rd, beaten 2 1/2L by Sizing Europe. The form’s good after Mad Max and Somersby utterly murdered The Nightingale and after 2 2nd place finishes at Aintree after Cheltenham the past few years, I expect him to make it 3rd time lucky.

    Tataniano wasn’t considered good enough for the Arkle in the end, instead being declared for the Grand Annual, only to be withdrawn due to soft ground, while French Opera is a warm 3/1 favourite after her very game 2nd in the Grand Annual off top-weight, but that race has taken its toll on the top 6 who’ve run here. Pigeon Island, Safari Journey, Consigliere all destroyed in the Red Rum yesterday. Tartak got a decent 4th in the Melling but it was a totally different ball game for him on decent ground round a flat track.

    Cannot understand why Osana isn’t a 2/1 favourite to be honest.

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    I find I am increasingly agreeing with you Zark!!
    Is that worrying or comforting?? :lol:

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    Osana is probably the one they have to beat imo, although I’ve never been a big fan of the horse. He always seems to be something of a sitting duck in top class races. This is no Arkle however.

    Bergo comes here in similar fashion to The Nightingale did on Thursday. He’s won a couple of easy races on the bridle and bypassed Cheltenham. What he doesn’t have is the form against the best around in the book.

    The difference in his and The Nightingale’s chance is this: The Nightingale had Somersby and Mad Max to contend with. Two high class animals. The only one of the three favs here who has potential to contend in Champion Chases etc. is Osana, who for reasons outlined may be worth opposing. Also: The Nightingale was 5/2, this lad is 15/2. A value bet against the top three imo.

    I feel it’s between him ad Osana, nothing backed yet though :wink:

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    Arghhh French Opera gone, frikkin 20p Rule 4 at 9/2 :'(

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    Same for me at 7/1 Bergo. Think that’s 11/2 then. If it starts bigger than 11/2 will I get the bigger price then as normal if there hadn’t been a Rule 4 Zark?

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    Noble Alan here. Lagged up in the Scottish hurdly thingy and loves sunshine/fast ground. Jumps ok and has an engine. Took 10/1 before the price-shatterers :shock: gl.

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    I think The Nightingale’s record left handed meant he was up against it on Thursday and the fact Mad Max may have finished in front of him in the Arkle anyway but for that bad mistake 2 out. Osana ran a good race that day, but never looked like the winner and he seems one of them horses who keeps finding one too good.
    Its probably not a great grade 1 but I will be backing Bergo to go on this good ground and based as much on some decent runs last year as his chase form this.

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    Osana 5/1 20p rule 4 still means I am on a 4/1 shot!!
    I am happy with that!!

    #289223
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    well that went well LOL :lol: :D :(

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    My NAP of the day (three out of three in the competition :shock: ) and didn’t he do it well?

    Paul Nicholls made the right move in side-stepping Cheltenham and that paid dividends todays. Aintree is a course that suits this horse very well.

    Would love to see him tackle Sandown in the Tingle Creek, where he could meet Arkle winner Sizing Europe. Throw Big Zeb and Master Minded into the mix and you have one helluva race.

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    Thanks Ruby – classy performance by the winner.
    Double up on the 1st 2 races for me :D

    Get well soon, Ruby

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    Some man for aftertiming

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    Tataniano was very impressive – jumped superbly.

    Makes me think he would have given SE a beating at Chelters if he’d been 100%.

    If Cee Bee does what many of us think he can I think SE will struggle to win more G1’s.

    Zip

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    Don’t think Tataniano is a Champion Chase contender for next year. Funnily, he seemed to put up a very Twist Magic-ish performance today. If he can do it at Cheltenham, unlike Twist, he could put up a good show. Don’t think Cheltenham will see hoim at his best though.

    #289387
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    just can’t understand people still knocking sizing europe

    watch the Arkle he murdered all and sundry ffs

    #289389
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    Fact, Big Bucks. He won as he liked I thought, although he started running out of gas up the run-in. He had the race won three out.

    However, Sizing had his limitations exposed by Captain Cee Bee at Leopardstown. One of things that worries me is this: will we ever see the same Cee Bee again, after bursting for a second time in the Arkle.

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    Now let me get this right

    Sizing Europe is unbeaten
    Sizing Europe beat Captain Cee Bee
    Sizing Europe hammered the Arkle field had it won a mile out

    but every tom dick and harry horse is better than him?

    Jesus wept :shock:

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