January 19, 2008 at 13:18 #6322
Deserve a nice holiday from connections after that effortJanuary 19, 2008 at 13:23 #136408chloedMember
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bless him, what a battler, cant be too soft at ascot then !January 19, 2008 at 14:46 #136428
Deserve a nice holiday from connections after that effort
Are you forgetting the tasty carrot that the Order of Merit offers.January 19, 2008 at 14:53 #136429
It’s only a carrot to humans Luke
Horse has given his all for jockey, Trainer and Owners there and he should be given a nice holiday in return imoJanuary 19, 2008 at 16:33 #136437
I think we both know that he will be aimed at the OOM and he will get plenty of racing before the end of the season.If he was mine I would definitely go for it.January 19, 2008 at 21:26 #136473
Trainer says he thrives on racing and will be entered in the Cleeve Hurdle next weekend!January 19, 2008 at 21:46 #136475
Trainer says he thrives on racing and will be entered in the Cleeve Hurdle next weekend!
I’m shaking my head at that news tbh Perpetual
There are enough casualties in NH racing without connections greed adding to emJanuary 19, 2008 at 22:29 #136480
Charlie – I think Luke’s right & he is being aimed at the OOM, so expect to see him running on SaturdayJanuary 20, 2008 at 02:29 #136493
Tell me exactly why it is a disgrace.He is a Grade 1 winner who is entitled to take his chance next week.The Venn Ottery comparison is ridiculous,emotional rubbish.January 20, 2008 at 07:46 #136503Fist of Fury 2k8Member
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Horse will tell the trainer if he’s ok to run or not.
He did really well and showed how genuine and tough he is, but I wouldn’t get too carried away….had the front horse stayed he would have won by a very long way. The horse never saw out the trip and everything behind was closing not just Lough Derg. If there are a few decent horses in his next race he won’t be carrying my moneyJanuary 20, 2008 at 09:33 #136508chloedMember
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"Fist of Fury 2k8" wrote: Horse will tell the trainer if he’s ok to run or not.
He did really well and showed how genuine and tough he is, but I wouldn’t get too carried away….had the front horse stayed he would have won by a very long way. The horse never saw out the trip and everything behind was closing not just Lough Derg. If there are a few decent horses in his next race he won’t be carrying my money
to say if the front horse had stayed he would have won by a long way is silly,fact is he didnt and lough won.
lough is now 2 points ahead of your beloved kauto in OOM ratings, so why don’t you give him more credit.January 20, 2008 at 10:24 #136511graysonscolumnParticipant
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The Venn Ottery comparison is ridiculous,emotional rubbish.
I wouldn’t quite couch it as strongly as that, but I’d suggest to Triple_Crown that at the time of his demise, Venn Ottery was certainly not being over-raced. Oliver Carter’s predilection for withdrawing horses on account of the going just before racing (have a look at the results for the 2003 and 2004 spring and summer seasons in particular – he must have done hundreds of pounds in fees that way) was always going to ensure that his star would never run 20 times a season or similar.
On his best form, Venn Ottery wasn’t necessarily being over-faced on the day he perished, either. However, the combination of Oliver Carter’s continuous passing of Venn Ottery between trainers (including to and from himself a few times), and the unsettling effect that had had, plus his refusal to believe that his charge needed to be kept racing with a tonguestrap when all around were telling him so, left him with a potentially top-class animal utterly bewildered and short on form and confidence.
The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.February 25, 2008 at 13:14 #146360
Where are the bleeding hearts gone.February 25, 2008 at 13:42 #146377
Thought he was fantastic yesterday (so did Tom!) and fully expect to see him at Cheltenham, Aintree, Ayr & possibly even Sandown if requiredFebruary 25, 2008 at 18:05 #146455bimbleParticipant
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had the front horse stayed he would have won by a very long way.
If my auntie was a man she’d be my uncle !
Staying races are there to won by horses that stay . Also Lough
gave 4lbs to Elusive Dream and 8lbs to My Way De Solzen .
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