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- January 19, 2008 at 13:18 #6322
Deserve a nice holiday from connections after that effort
January 19, 2008 at 13:23 #136408bless him, what a battler, cant be too soft at ascot then !
January 19, 2008 at 14:46 #136428Deserve a nice holiday from connections after that effort
Are you forgetting the tasty carrot that the Order of Merit offers.
January 19, 2008 at 14:53 #136429It’s only a carrot to humans Luke
Horse has given his all for jockey, Trainer and Owners there and he should be given a nice holiday in return imo
January 19, 2008 at 16:33 #136437I think we both know that he will be aimed at the OOM and he will get plenty of racing before the end of the season.If he was mine I would definitely go for it.
January 19, 2008 at 21:26 #136473Trainer says he thrives on racing and will be entered in the Cleeve Hurdle next weekend!
January 19, 2008 at 21:46 #136475Trainer says he thrives on racing and will be entered in the Cleeve Hurdle next weekend!
I’m shaking my head at that news tbh Perpetual
There are enough casualties in NH racing without connections greed adding to em
January 19, 2008 at 22:29 #136480Charlie – I think Luke’s right & he is being aimed at the OOM, so expect to see him running on Saturday
January 20, 2008 at 02:29 #136493Tell me exactly why it is a disgrace.He is a Grade 1 winner who is entitled to take his chance next week.The Venn Ottery comparison is ridiculous,emotional rubbish.
January 20, 2008 at 07:46 #136503Horse will tell the trainer if he’s ok to run or not.
He did really well and showed how genuine and tough he is, but I wouldn’t get too carried away….had the front horse stayed he would have won by a very long way. The horse never saw out the trip and everything behind was closing not just Lough Derg. If there are a few decent horses in his next race he won’t be carrying my money
January 20, 2008 at 09:33 #136508"Fist of Fury 2k8" wrote: Horse will tell the trainer if he’s ok to run or not.
He did really well and showed how genuine and tough he is, but I wouldn’t get too carried away….had the front horse stayed he would have won by a very long way. The horse never saw out the trip and everything behind was closing not just Lough Derg. If there are a few decent horses in his next race he won’t be carrying my money
to say if the front horse had stayed he would have won by a long way is silly,fact is he didnt and lough won.
lough is now 2 points ahead of your beloved kauto in OOM ratings, so why don’t you give him more credit.January 20, 2008 at 10:24 #136511The Venn Ottery comparison is ridiculous,emotional rubbish.
I wouldn’t quite couch it as strongly as that, but I’d suggest to Triple_Crown that at the time of his demise, Venn Ottery was certainly not being over-raced. Oliver Carter’s predilection for withdrawing horses on account of the going just before racing (have a look at the results for the 2003 and 2004 spring and summer seasons in particular – he must have done hundreds of pounds in fees that way) was always going to ensure that his star would never run 20 times a season or similar.
On his best form, Venn Ottery wasn’t necessarily being over-faced on the day he perished, either. However, the combination of Oliver Carter’s continuous passing of Venn Ottery between trainers (including to and from himself a few times), and the unsettling effect that had had, plus his refusal to believe that his charge needed to be kept racing with a tonguestrap when all around were telling him so, left him with a potentially top-class animal utterly bewildered and short on form and confidence.
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February 25, 2008 at 13:14 #146360Where are the bleeding hearts gone.
February 25, 2008 at 13:42 #146377Thought he was fantastic yesterday (so did Tom!) and fully expect to see him at Cheltenham, Aintree, Ayr & possibly even Sandown if required
February 25, 2008 at 18:05 #146455had the front horse stayed he would have won by a very long way.
If my auntie was a man she’d be my uncle !
Staying races are there to won by horses that stay . Also Lough
gave 4lbs to Elusive Dream and 8lbs to My Way De Solzen .February 25, 2008 at 18:18 #146456Sorry Bimble wrong race wrong thread this is months old
Unlike yesterday that horse was a complete non stayer……not even Inglis Drever would give a good stayer that sort of lead and catch him……not that it matters a hoot.Yesterday he won on merit but don’t forget he beat a novice a has-been and a horse who needs at least miles..excellent performace for him and brilliant to watch all the same.
February 25, 2008 at 18:30 #146459Oops!

Going off topic a bit I am trying to think of the filly { I think ] who was beaten
a short head in the King George V1 and Queen Elizabeth Stakes at Ascot ,
after which Julian Wilson said she didn ‘ t stay . - AuthorPosts
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