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Nice puff piece by Tom O’Ryan on Tony Culpable in today’s Post. It would have been intersting if he’d have included a few Hello lifestyle titbits about this journeyman jockey, but you can’t have everything.
But on the facing page Losestanley is taking a stand a stand against the cheat allowed back into the sport….of athletics….in his horse racing column.
Still, at least he’s serving up some shrewd each-way tip on an odds-n jolly in a seven runner handicap. You couldn’t make it up.
Cozy little club………..
I am great believer in giving people a second chance, Glenn.
Surely if Chambers wins the 100m Olympics it is a great advert for clean athletics? The message – you don’t need to cheat to win….
Surely if Chambers wins the 100m Olympics it is a great advert for clean athletics?
…or an indictment of the fact that he was probably good enough to challenge for an Olympic gold without having to fill himself full of cr*p in the first place.
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Exactly – can’t see how that would be a bad news story for the sport though.
It says the sport doesn’t take cheating seriously.
It says don’t worry if you get caught, just serve your token ban, say sorry (you don’t have to mean it) and we will forget it even happened.
If I was an athlete going to the Olympics and Chambers was included in the team I would withdraw on principle.
What aboiut the athlete who will lose out if Chambers goes to Beijing – why should he lose out because a cheat was allowed to take his place.
Cheats do not deserve a second chance in any sport.
It says the sport doesn’t take cheating seriously.
Although I’m a sports nut its the reason I wont be watching too much of it. Same with the Tour De France.
What aboiut the athlete who will lose out if Chambers goes to Beijing – why should he lose out because a cheat was allowed to take his place.
Cheats do not deserve a second chance in any sport.
What about him? He wasn’t good enough to beat a "clean" Chambers in a trial – you can file that under "not good enough" I think….
If cheats don’t deserve a second chance in any sport then, as I suggested earlier, Racing’s cast list would be decimated at the drop of a hat. Let’s face it – the handicap system has bred generations of cheats, some more blatant than others of course….
Don’t think I’d better get involved.
sd what’s better.
Chambers was found out as a cheat.
Before that he apparently was a good clean athlete.
If he now wins Gold as an apparently clean athlete are the public going to believe he is clean, whether he is or not?Confidence in any sport is so important. I was very interested in the olympics in the 70’s / early 80’s but now I could not care less who wins.
It is also important for those taking part, if they see the penalty for being found out as insignificant, they are far more likely to be tempted to use banned substances themselves.
Time and time again, athletes I have had doubts about turn out to be cheats at a later date.
Mark
Value Is EverythingI don’t believe he is going to Beijing as a clean athlete.
Drugs are taken to help you train harder, not to actually win on the day. Just because he’s not taking drugs now, his condition and fitness is from the back of a drug taking training programme.
This nasty situation wouldn’t have happened if the bans they get were long enough. 4 or 6 six years would do the trick. 2 years is a joke.
I don’t believe he is going to Beijing as a clean athlete.
Drugs are taken to help you train harder, not to actually win on the day. Just because he’s not taking drugs now, his condition and fitness is from the back of a drug taking training programme.
This nasty situation wouldn’t have happened if the bans they get were long enough. 4 or 6 six years would do the trick. 2 years is a joke.
Rich,
For the benefit of TRF could you change what you said to "I have great difficulty believing".
As to whether I agree with you.
You might think I do Rich, I couldn’t possibly comment.
Mark
Value Is EverythingWho cares about Chambers ? The real story here is Winstanley tipping an Even Money shot in an each-way double. That’s a scandal.
I can see not relationship between Tony Culhane passing out a few tips (God forbid from a jockey) and blatant cheating through drugs for Chambers. Personally I found the whole witchhunt on him & other jockeys on the tipping business weird and illogical judging by some the likely losers they were dishing out at 12-14 to one I would have thought the only criminals(criminally insane) were those that paid for this rubbish.They weren’t accused pulling so how can there be any priveleged information and if there was some of the trainers must have been at it. It also seems so get a smaller suspension for actually pulling than passing so called information
Obviously I have to be careful what I say but I’ll think you’ll find that those that were done for passing on tips were done simply because that was all they could find concrete evidence about. It goes a little deeper than simply telling the milkman they think they’ll win on the favourite they’re riding today at Catterick.
They could do what they do in Bodybuilding and have a drug and drug free championships..
But that would be far too simple and far too unethical.
My maths isn’t as sharp as it should be, so can anyone tell me how much the Couch has riding on to the second leg of his double please?
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