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Dave Jay.
Can I ask why you would vote BNP at the next election?
I also would like to ask what Iraq has to do with "Local elections"?
Just another excuse if you ask me.
I’d vote BNP because it’s probably the best way of giving the government the biggest two fingered salute possible .. it makes me laugh when I think of the millions they’ve spent on politically correct drivel and then large chunks of the population vote for the BNP !!
Another reason being, that I don’t agree with immigration because the countries where these people are coming from need the skilled workers that come here more than we do, such as health workers coming from Africa, or educated English speakers coming from Eastern Europe. We in the West shouldn’t be bleeding these countries dry of their most talented people when we can easily afford to train the people who live here already. People who say that those that are against immigration are rascist should take a closer look at the motivation behind immigration before they open their ignorant gobs.
Immigration is rascism on a grand scale because it ensures that poor countries remain poor by stealing the folk off them that they need the most.
I think it might be an irony that the only political party in this country that is against rascism and immigration is called rascist.
dave jay.
I think your points only highlights what a vast majority of folk feel. <br> Thats why New Labour got a pounding at the local’s, and the BNP gained.
Its all going to kick off !
Enoch was right after all!
Hoppster.
You almost sound as though you agree with Enoch Powell, and that you can see how correct he is going to be, be it 10 or 20 years time.
I think we’ll call that a "turnaround" rather than a "Twist":biggrin:
As far as your view on other issues, such as education, nhs, crime and tax, these issues are also failing to cope with the ammount of intakes. The NHS is crumbling around us. I know, lets bring more people into the country to make it better???? <br> The schools around here have kids that have just arrived form Iraq and Sommalia (to name only two) who cannot speak any English, and who disrupt the rest of the class. My wifes hair dresser is taking her daughter out of her school, for this simple reason. As many other have done. (Which increases racial tensions BTW.)<br> Were being taxed more and more, to pay for the extra benefits that the new immigrants get.
I think its a very single minded approach to think that people are racist if they vote BNP. My personal view about them is that half of what their manifesto was about was was really quite good. The other half was quite simply racist.
Labour lost in Harrow btw. Tories take control.;)
Ere we go again!
" As I’ve already stated, everything happens to everyone eventually."
So we all "eventually" win the lottery!
"We are a long, long way from such an eventuality, and Powell’s statements from the 60’s are an effective anachronism."
Rival gangs of blacks, asian and white youths try to stab each other every weekend in my home town.  I have told you that before.
"you actually believe that the myriad problems in this country can be laid at the door of immigration.  I submit that the vast majority of our problems are down to the ineptitude of those politicians that choose to govern us."
Well immigration certainly doesn’t bloody well help.
"The latest estimates put the cost of the misplaced adventure in Iraq at something like £7Bn to the UK taxpayer – with more to come."
Yes I agree. More to come in the way of benefit being paid to these so called persecuted folk. What about the Somalian gent, who tried to claim that he would be persecuted back home, kills a WPC, then flees back to Somalia to try and hide. It cant be that bad over there can it? (I would like your view on this one in particular)<br> People like you use Iraq as an excuss.
"That kind of  cash can build an awful lot of prisons and hospitals, pay an awful lot of teachers." <br> <br> New hospitals have been built. I have witnessed one first hand, when my aunt died recently. An amazing new building. West Middlesex in Richmond……. It hasn’t been paid for yet.
Two: you forget quickly the values you claim to espouse i.e. those of ‘Britishness’. Clearly, that does not extend to the ‘British’ trait of extending a helping hand to those which are persecuted in their own country. "
Persecuted, My Arse!  Who in Poland is persecuted? Latvia, Lithuania and Cech Republic? Tell me who is persecuting them?<br> We are loosing all of our british culture.
"at children who are essentially helpless, and accusing them of ‘disrupting the rest of the class’. "ÂÂÂ
Would it not bother you if your childs education was being disrupted ? And dont call my wifes hair dresser an arse. Your have no reason to do so as you dont know her. Kindly take that remark back. She is only doing what the other masses have done. Move away!
"In another role-reversal, you suggest that I think anyone who votes BNP is a racist. I would ask you to point out where I said that
These are weighty matters, and are beyond the grasp of the type of single-agenda ameoba’s that the BNP would put up as candidates."
You dont like people who vote for something other than what you like. Another insult to people you dont know.
"but that those who voted for them either consider immigration their number one concern, or they have wanted a send a message to the Government. "<br> <br> So going on that form. Anyone who votes for an opposition is an ameoba!
"I hate to be partonising or condescending"
No you dont. You love it!
<br> "what exactly is the point of engaging me in debate?"
Cos you keep replying you berk!:biggrin: ÂÂÂ
Enough answers for you?
Your turn. Im only after one answer on an oppology for the lovely caring mother who does my wifes hair.
Hope thats not to hard for you……..
(Edited by lollys mate at 8:44 pm on May 10, 2006)
This year one of the companies I deal with in Poland has lost 2 of its best Engineers, who have both come to the UK. One of them is working as a security guard and the other is doing something else, but both are on the minimum wage and roughing it !! This particular company is in dire straits because it has lost these people and more of them are going to leave. Ultimately the Company they worked for will lose the contracts that they have been awarded, and non-English speaking Poles will be out of work and thus help keep this country on its knees.
And as to your suggestion GH, that I am talking out of my hole regarding the poaching of essential people from poor countries here’s a rascist article for you to read ..
Twistmiester.
You are now scareing me.
How much have you had to drink?
This is not you.
Can I be so bold as to ask you where you got the figures you quoted below? I know you like to prove a "Fact";)
"The latest estimates put the cost of the misplaced adventure in Iraq at something like £7Bn to the UK taxpayer – with more to come".
BTW. Did you hear the one about the 9 terrorist highjackers who held up a plane for 4 days?
Answer; Their now British and on as much benefit as they can get! <br> I think the last count was £3,000,000 in legal costs, £2,000,000 in policeing, 2 years living rent free in a £250,000 house in Hounslow (£105,000) £46,000 in Benefits, A V.W. Sharan, 2 Vauxhall Astras, a Nissan Micra, free English and computer skill lessons, a load of mobile phones, (cos there are a load of em").
And this was all free because they hyjacked a plane.
Add that up by several thousand, and you have the same cost of your war in Iraq!
F..KIN get a life and open your eyes you tit!
I have only one question for you tonight. (Two questions seem a bit much for you).
Why do you think that nearly all the white English home grown folk have moved out of Harrow?
Could it be that it has become quite unbearable to be white and English in Harrow?
I ask you to think with a "very" wide view of what is really happening in this borough, before you answer.
Take a couple of days if you like. But please answer.
BTW. She’s called Shirley, and she thinks you are a tit aswell. But your apology is very welcome.:biggrin: Just be carefull of what you call people. It could be deemed as racist you know.:biggrin:
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.. immigration is a Capitalist Whore trick GH, I don’t think you should feel the need to defend the indefensible.
Our government encouraging people to emigrate here from countries like India, Nigeria and Eastern Europe is an absolute disgrace. White people and their governments in Western countries hold all of the power and while this nonsense carries on nothing is going to change.
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