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Dwyer looks to have picked up a lengthy ban from the Indian stewards.
Jockeys really should factor in the fact that that region does not do sport as we know it.
No balance, no sense of fair play, complete lack of sportsmanship.
No go zone.
http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/purr-along-martin-dwyer-newmarket-guineas-epsom-derby-dwyer-hit-with-ban-from-from-april-6-to-may-31/1224553/related/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews
Surely no jockey will even consider going there now?
About time world organisations stopped recognising the Indian Jockey Club and through these farcical bans in the bin.
I had an India lad stay with me for the summer as an overseas cricket player. Lovely lad, nice genuine bloke but incredibly naive. He was university educated from a well off family as well, I dread to think what half of those punters are like!
Yep, its across the board sports wise, I think it was Alistair Cook in a recent test match in Indian who made a century innings and upon reaching his 100 the crowd were silent! no recognition of a superb batting display whatsoever.
Bias to a dangerous level.
The issue now is whether the ban is reciprocated, as with Richard Hughes. If it is someone needs to ask serious questions regarding the integrity and fairness of the authorities.
The issue now is whether the ban is reciprocated, as with Richard Hughes. If it is someone needs to ask serious questions regarding the integrity and fairness of the authorities.
I’m not sure if the BHA have any option other than to reciprocate the ban unless a procedural error has occurred.
I think this is a bit different to the Richard Hughes case. In his case, from what I remember, he had clearly breached the rules. This is about the opinion of the Royal Western India Turf Club’s disciplinary commitee. For those into these kind of things this is the Royal Western India Turf Club’s rule book http://www.rwitc.com/horseracing/rulesOfRacing.pdf
An article by one of Indias leading racing writers http://racingpulse.in/code/stpage.aspx?pgId=39561
The race if anyone hasn’t seen it
It ain’t half hot mum!
Greg Wood reports that the ban need not be reciprocated by BHA if M Dwyer can persuade them that the Indian stewards "failed to observe the principles of natural justice"
I’m trying to find data on how many times these situations – with any rider – result in a horse being declared a ‘non-starter’, esp after punter protests
The race if anyone hasn’t seen it
I can see how this would be seen by the average racegoer as a jockey pulling the favorite before the wire. That’s what it looks like from the side view. If in fact the horse bled and ran into another horse herself, then obviously Dwyer should not be banned, but this race is a little suspicious looking at first glance.
At second glance the jockey earlier had to straighten Ice Age from running into another horse about two or three furlongs out and he did the same thing in the last hundred yards.
Is the BHA gearing up to ignore the Indian Authorities?
Hope so.
Value Is EverythingIs the BHA gearing up to ignore the Indian Authorities?
Hope so.
Why? Personally I’m not bothered one way or another.
When in Rome.
If you’re prepared to take the lucrative rewards in such places maybe you should take the negatives that go along with it.
A totally over the top response on the issue from the racing media considering their silence over many important issues in the sport here.
I have to say I agree with Eddie on this one.
The ban may appear to be severe when judged against the rules in the UK but as Eddie said "when in Rome"
It’s up to riders to familiarise themselves with the local rules (and penalties) they then have the choice whether to ride or not.
Having then made the decision to ride they then have to take the consequences of their actions.
After what happened to Hughes last year I would have thought any rider with anything approaching a full complement of brain cells would have avoided riding in India like the plague.
The BHA are obliged to reciprocate any ban and I hope they do – then again they have continually shown themselves to be lily livered over the past few years, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if they did ignore the ban.
Normally, I’d agree the BHA should enforce any ban by other racing authority. Did with Hughes.
However, when looking at
this
race you’d have to be an incompetent steward to believe Dwyer was trying to lose. The alternative is NOT Dwyer being corrupt, but the Indian Authorities… Has "pressure" been put on them by big gamblers who lost money on the horse?
In any other case there are two points of view, even with Hughes you could argue for the ban. This time there is NO "case to answer".
When there is an ABSOLUTELY blatant miscarriage of justice like this, it should be overturned.
"When in Rome", really?
If someone goes to a country knowing they have a poor justice system… Does he deserve the DEATH penalty for a trumped up murder charge? Ah, he obviously didn’t kill the bloke; but went to the country knowing the justice system – so deseves to die.
Value Is EverythingHughes was hardly not once bitten twice shy as didn’t he go back to India this year or did I dream it?
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This is madness, the first time i have taken interest in the story and the first time i have watched the race. Th e horse in question "ice age" doesn’t get a clean break, is shaken up early, changed reins repeatedly, and never looked like getting up until late on when needs to be switch slightly causing a break in momentum. How officials can look at that and hand out such a ban is utter madness. A racing authority, who’s judgement needs serious analyzing across the globe.
Hughes was hardly not once bitten twice shy as didn’t he go back to India this year or did I dream it?
Hughes DID ride in India this year but only in some of the top races:-
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