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- April 26, 2009 at 23:29 #11097
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Langholm Horse Racing Association has been providing quality horse racing for many years. The purpose of our organisation is to have Race Meetings throughout the year at various venues. The horses that are racing are all thoroughbreds that are registered with the Thoroughbred Register at Wetherby’s & that can provide the necessary passport to prove this.
Some horses that are competing travel as far as Wales and Aberdeen and spectators will travel from great distances, sometimes making it a short or long weekend break.
The horses that travel from further destinations are boarded at nearby stables and the owners usually stay at the same property or a nearby Bed & Breakfast or Hotel.
This type of racing is to give owners/syndicates a chance to run their own horse under the “Flapping Rules & Regulations”, but they do not have to train them under a Registered Trainer. This keeps the costs down of owning a Race Horse and at the same time provides pleasurable and enjoyable times.. Because the horses are not trained under a Registered Trainer – please note – any horses that are run on the “flapping circuit” can no longer run at other racing events that are organised by the Jockey Club.
2009 confirmed race dates:
DAY & DATE TIME OF FIRST RACE LOCATION
Sat 2 May 2.30pm HHRA, Hawick Moor
Sun 17 May 2.00pm HHRA, Hawick Moor
Sun 24 May 2.00pm LHRA, Castleholm, Langholm
Fri 5 June 1.00pm Hawick Common Riding
Sat 6 June 12.30pm Hawick Common Riding
Fri 12 June 2.00pm Selkirk
Sat 13 June 6.15pm Mosstroopers, Hawick
Sat 27 June 2.00pm HHRA, Hawick Moor
Sat 11 July 2.00pm HHRA Hawick Moor
Fri 17 July 6.30pm (time TBC) LHRA, Langholm
Fri 31 July 2.00pm Langholm Common Riding
Sat 1 Aug 2.00pm LHRA, Langholm
A date for a race meeting that is to be held on a weekend is to be confirmed by HHRA before Irving
Sat 22 Aug Irvine(to Be confirmed/possible double day mtg)
If entries are received after the closing date – the additional late fee will also be applied (£5).
For entry forms for Langholm Meetings please contact Neil Henderson on 013873 80856.
For the First LHRA meeting of the season i.e. Sun 24 May 2009 the race distances are as follows:-
6 furlongs, 1 mile, 7 furlongs, 1 1/2 mile
also pony race in between 1 of the races.
April 26, 2009 at 23:31 #223785
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April 27, 2009 at 00:19 #223799Because the horses are not trained under a Registered Trainer – please note – any horses that are run on the “flapping circuit” can no longer run at other racing events that are organised by the Jockey Club.
Which was what cost Racing under Rules the services of an excellent prospect in Chestnut Charlie a couple of seasons back!
Rob
April 28, 2009 at 00:05 #223985
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Because the horses are not trained under a Registered Trainer – please note – any horses that are run on the “flapping circuit” can no longer run at other racing events that are organised by the Jockey Club.
Which was what cost Racing under Rules the services of an excellent prospect in Chestnut Charlie a couple of seasons back!
Rob
where did it run and any idea what they called it flapping
April 28, 2009 at 00:51 #223999It ran somewhere in Ireland. I remember reading the name it ran under but can’t remember it now.
It was allowed to run in France after being discovered and ran in the Grande Course D’Haies at Auteuil.
April 28, 2009 at 01:09 #224003It ran at Dingle under the name of "The Boxer". Was well beaten in both flapping starts.
Runs in the top staying hurdles in France now – they aren’t overly sure what "flapping" is so it’s not outlawed in France.
April 28, 2009 at 03:11 #224021Does Tyrone Williams the former flat jockey still ride at these events?
April 28, 2009 at 03:44 #224023It ran somewhere in Ireland. I remember reading the name it ran under but can’t remember it now.
It was allowed to run in France after being discovered and ran in the Grande Course D’Haies at Auteuil.
Irish Stamp is correct. The Boxer (aka. Chestnut Charlie) came 6th in the Dingle Derby in 2006.
I’ve posted a link to an Irish Independent article about the horse below as well as the link to the Turf Club committee’s findings.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/horse-racing/charlie-gets-ko-over-his-boxing-role-at-flapper-705076.html
http://www.turfclub.ie/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=204&Itemid=34There was a similar story a few years previous when Ballygowan Beauty (a grade 1 winner no less!) was believed to have ran as "Bog Road" at Dingle.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/article379473.ece
Dingle would be considered the Cheltenham of the Irish flapping circuit. The likes of the Carberrys, Paddy Flood, Paul Townend, Jack Doyle and Danny Mullins would have all cut their teeth at Ballintaggart. Even Lester Piggott’s son rode there last August.
April 28, 2009 at 03:53 #224025Edited.
I misread it earlier, and thought someone was asking why flapping was called flapping.
I totally made up the next bit.
I’m fairly sure that ‘flapping’ as a term originally applies to "unofficial" greyhound meetings.
So my guess is that rather than chasing an electric bunny, they run in a straight line towards someone waving, or flapping, a hankie.
I’ll now go and look it up on wikipedia, and see how close to the truth I am.
Second guess was that instead of using a bunny, or after the bunny wore out, they would tie a rag to the contraption, and it would flap in the wind as it went around.
Okay, this is taken from The Language of Horse Racing, By Gerald Hammond.
Flapping is racing which is not licensed by the Jockey Club. A course where such racing occurs is a flapping track (first attestation, 1911 [so before greyhound racing started in this country] ). Partridge suggests that the word came to be used because of its associations with senses involving ‘a lack of dignity’: ‘flap’ from the seventeenth century was slang for ‘a female of little repute’ (as in ‘flapper’). In his book The Pitmen’s Derby, Mike Kirkup records that Blaydon Races, well known from the song, was a flapping meeting which raced until 1916, when a crowd of 4,000 rioted because a horse called Anxious Moment ‘was involved in a disputed decision, resulting in furious backers tearing up their tickets, the weighing room and everything which moved, before dispatching the lot in the River Tyne.’ Anyone found participating in, or even attending, flapping races is liable to be warned off. Even the annual race for nuns at Trim in Ireland ‘is officially regarded as a flapper meeting and any form of involvement can prove disastrous for racing’s professionals’ (Sporting Life, 14 June 1990).
Do you think I’ve got a future on Call My Bluff? I’d like the opposing captain to be Russell Brand.
April 28, 2009 at 10:01 #224049To this day Paddy Flood maintains it wasn’t Ballygowan Beauty he rode – would love to have seen the race, sounded like an awesome performance
April 28, 2009 at 23:08 #224171
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Does Tyrone Williams the former flat jockey still ride at these events?
no he is now back with mel britain after taking a year off to allow him to race back under jockey club rules.
fran ferris rides at the flapping meetings. mainly in ireland but attended our scottish racing last year winning 7 races over the 2 day event
May 2, 2009 at 02:40 #224974
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first meeting on saturday, anybody making the trip to the borders, my horse is running
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