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May 18, 2024 at 19:30 #1694884
If I were him I would be thinking good riddance.
The things I want most in life are the things that I can't win.
May 18, 2024 at 19:51 #1694885It is unfortunate for Varian but he did inherit Postponed when the owner moved him from Cumani.
I can’t say I like the Amo Racing operation but trainers lose horses and jockeys lose rides all the time.
May 18, 2024 at 19:53 #1694886“Not a fan of Matt Chapman but well done to him for asking the question the owner looked distinctively uncomfortable coming up with a response.”
I agree he asked politely enough without any sort of accusatory tone and the answer was very dismissive and cold “No horses really moved around” Well- yes they did cos you’ve taken the 3 Varian ones away, so that was a lie.
May 18, 2024 at 19:53 #1694887This guy’s going through jockeys and trainers like Abramovich did managers.
May 18, 2024 at 19:59 #1694889“It is unfortunate for Varian but he did inherit Postponed when the owner moved him from Cumani.
I can’t say I like the Amo Racing operation but trainers lose horses and jockeys lose rides all the time.”
Varian pointed out himself that King of Steel was trained as a 2yo by David Loughnane, and the sportinglife article says that Ornellaia was moved by Amo from Dominic Ffrench Davis to Varian’s yard in the spring. Amo horses must be dizzy with the shuffling about by this stage.May 18, 2024 at 20:09 #1694890The wikipedia entry for Kia Joorabchian is interesting. He isn’t the first businessman to land into the racing scene and start splashing a lot of cash about very quickly and giving it the Billy Bigtime for the cameras. Some of them leave in a hurry too.
May 18, 2024 at 20:39 #1694892If I was Varian in private I would be saying good riddance to a rather toxic individual – pretty sure he won’t have trouble filling those empty boxes.
To me it reflects more on Kia as he is the common denominator in all these episodes and it should be a further big warning flag to his other trainers as to the kind of individual you are dealing with…..if he is looking to be in an instant results business after throwing his cash around then he most certainly picked the wrong sport to invest heavily into.
I highly doubt anyone would be sad to see him go if his involvement in racing is brief and he decides to take his ball and go somewhere else…..at this rate he will soon run out of trainers and/or jockeys that will be willing to sign up for Aggro Racing…..sorry Amo Racing.
May 18, 2024 at 21:13 #1694895Not that it will happen as someone will always want to grasp the “opportunity” but if trainers got together and said no, let’s not let him in.
The things I want most in life are the things that I can't win.
May 18, 2024 at 21:23 #1694897I imagine he pays good money so there will always be trainers and jockeys happy to take it, while understanding that he’ll move on at the first perceived error. Varian is a clever man so I am sure he knew this day would come. Eventually this man toddler will tire of racing and move.
May 18, 2024 at 21:37 #1694898Roger Varian has had to deal with far worse than a petulant owner. If anyone can put having a few horses taken away from him into perspective, he can.
He has already shown this season he is a class act as a trainer and as a person, so he will not be short of owners and horses.
May 18, 2024 at 21:56 #1694901He is all of those things CAS without a doubt and only one person will come out of this with any sort of integrity.
The things I want most in life are the things that I can't win.
May 18, 2024 at 22:31 #1694907I recall when he first got into horse racing, and the media were fawning over him. Weren’t they aware of his reputation? He’s not really someone to be associated with……The horse racing media really are insular…..
And what has happened is par for the course…..and all so predictable.
May 19, 2024 at 11:23 #1694939As we say in scotland he’s an erse of the highest order. Or a classless prick if you prefer. I’m sure he will always find trainers and jockeys to work for him but the pool is getting smaller by the day.
May 19, 2024 at 16:37 #1694962“I recall when he first got into horse racing, and the media were fawning over him”.
I remember too Andy. I also remember many members of this forum explaining why his involvement wasn’t as “great for racing” as so many maintained (including Chapman).
May 20, 2024 at 18:54 #1695025He seems to be a particularly classless individual.If I were a top trainer I would refuse point blank to train for him.
May 20, 2024 at 19:04 #1695028“Classless individual” that just about sums him up
The things I want most in life are the things that I can't win.
May 20, 2024 at 20:54 #1695033An interesting read https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/kia-joorabchian-further-explains-why-amo-racing-horses-left-the-roger-varian-yard/218055
Playing devil’s advocate, is he simply ‘classless’ or ‘an erse’ or, alternatively, is he a disrupter who is keen to challenge some of racing’s sacred cows? If he’s not happy surely he’s entitled to move his horses or change his jockeys, it is a professional sport after all.
Will he still be in the game in ten years time? I doubt it, to operate at the scale they are you’d need very deep pockets or be lucky enough to stumble on a few stallions and shrewd enough to exploit the commercial opportunities that would bring. In short, unless you are an oil trillionaire, you’d need to find a Sadler’s Wells or a Galileo and a band of lesser but still commercial stallions to go with them.
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