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TAPK, where’s this 5/1 come from?
Did you request a price?
I liked your confidence Halfway, so i asked Corals for a price! Like i have already said i am with Tartan Bearer though!
Aha! I like your style!
5/1 is a bit short considering targets havent been set out yet but I might be tempted with that…..
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Had a bit more e/w on Tartan Bearer for the King George today and the best price i could get was 6/1, thats the problem when your reputation
precedes you!This is the problem with Tartan Bearer if you want to bet on him antepost, any race he shares an entry with Conduit one will be a non runner, Stoute has quoted the Eclipse with Tartan Bearer and The Tattersalls Gold Cup so he’d probably be going to Ireland and then back to Sandown.
Obviously they preparing Conduit for an Arc tilt so you’d think he’d be the one going to Ascot.
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No chance of Conduit running in the Eclipse is there and it’s not a race SMS is likley to let slip past without at least trying to win it.
If I thought Tartan Bearer was going to run in the King George then I would be grabbing all the 11/1 ew I could get on Dr Freeemantle for the Eclipse.
It seems obvious Tartan Breater 3/1 joint fav will be heading for the Eclipse and SMS is not a man for changing his mind.
SMS didn’t seem convinced 12f is his best trip when he said he got the trip just ok at Epsom hence the horse being aimed mainly at 10f races
If he is beaten in the Tattersalls Gold Cup then chance are it won’t much matter where he runs. He’s got to get past Pipedreamer who all but beat him at Sandown first which will be no easy task
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.Can’t see Pipedreamer ever getting past him, Tartan Bearer is as good as the field that is against him, think it will be between Campanologist, Tartan Bearer and Frozen Fire and the tough Youmzanin vying for first, Pipedreamer will get outclassed.
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Did you miss the last race. It’s him that will have to pass Pipedreamer if he goes for home 2 out like he did at Sandown..
John Gosden reckons he wasn’t fully fit and is keen for a rematch.
Unfortunately for them both as you point out they’re not only the two in the race
Had a bit more e/w on Tartan Bearer for the King George today and the best price i could get was 6/1, thats the problem when your reputation
precedes you!This quote is priceless
Ever wondered why they let you bet with them?!Had a bit more e/w on Tartan Bearer for the King George today and the best price i could get was 6/1, thats the problem when your reputation
precedes you!This quote is priceless
Ever wondered why they let you bet with them?!ARAGORN, Some are natural leaders and some follow like sheep, you need to try harder to keep up with me! did you take any 10/1 about
Age of aquarius for the Leger or are you The Ante-Post Dreamer?Did you miss the last race. It’s him that will have to pass Pipedreamer if he goes for home 2 out like he did at Sandown..
John Gosden reckons he wasn’t fully fit and is keen for a rematch.
Unfortunately for them both as you point out they’re not only the two in the race
I probably was harsh saying he would be outclassed but I still can’t see him beating Tartan Beare.
Tartan Bearer was half fit that day too which was mentioned before and not after, the race defintely suited Pipedreamer more than Tartan Bearer, being that slow was always going to let Pipedreamer get a run on him, but still Tartan Bearer was able to turn him over, think this showed the class he has and with Red Rock Canyon running there going to go fast at The Curragh, stamina will take more hold and Tartan Bearer has more strength in this department than Pipedreamer. And if you see Tartan Bearer’s rides all his races are very close, even if you take New Approach out of last years Derby would Tartan Bearer have won by 4.5l over Causal Conquest, I think his laziness would have seen him win by his usual close margin. Another note shame about Tartan Bearer’s tail, dunno if this has any impact in his racing however.
Youmzain and Frozen Fire I think will be the dangers, and at least Frozen Fire would have had a nice blow after his farcical Chester run, I think Pipedreamer would have been a main danger to Paco Boy this Saturday, think he’d go the 1m better, think Gosden may rue this decision if Expresso Star isn’t good enough to get the Lockinge.
Didn’t Daniel Wildenstein at various times boycott running his horses in Britain?
Just checked, and Ecurie Wildenstein’s last Group 1 success was Westerner in the 2005 Ascot Gold Cup, so it looks like the new operation isn’t averse to sending horses over here.
Anyway, Magadan is running in the Grand Prix de Chantilly tomorrow.
It would be nice if either Magadan or the Abdullah/Fabre Ideal World could develop into a serious contender.
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Conduit and Tartan Bearer are 5/1 and Cima De Triomphe 8/1 with Cashmans. others on request. Most big bookies will come up with a price for an individual horse if you ask them.
From the impressions Conduit left me in the St Leger and then the Breeders’ Cup Turf, he is a fantastic 5/1 bet.
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From the impressions Conduit left me in the St Leger and then the Breeders’ Cup Turf, he is a fantastic 5/1 bet.
10/1 for the Arc would be a much better bet, and with the assurance that he’s almost certain to be aimed there.
I couldn’t bet for the Arc without knowing more about Beheshtam, Aizavoski, Cutlass Bay among the other French 3YOs.
Looks like Yeats is heading there now…a good call I think. he has as much toe as most 12f horses and more class, Aidan seems to have gone off the race as a target for his 3yo’s (probably thinks it bottomed Galileo) …and there is no obvious 4yo from the stable.
All the signs point to a stud career for Yeats shortly….talk of the Arc, talk of 11.5 second furlongs, King George target….its bye bye Ballydoyle and hello Coolmore surely, by the year end.
Ever wondered why they let you bet with them?!
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