Killiney Novice Chase 2021

[Jasolong]

I would have said this is envoi Allen’s toughest career task to date having to give asterion furlonge 11 pounds!!
However, it’s left handed ( I’m pretty sure punchestown is left handed anyway lol) and we all know asterion in much better going right handed.
Although if he does jump a bit straighter we could finally see just how good envoi is because asterion is some horse to beat and give 11 pounds just a shame it’s left handed

[Nathan Hughes]

Punchestown is right handed??

Blackbeard to conquer the World

[Nathan Hughes]

I’m sure it is

Blackbeard to conquer the World

[Jasolong]

It is forget me 😂 was thinking of leopardstown

[Nathan Hughes]

Certainly suits the Mullins horse that way around and weight allowance
Not that I’m taking on Envoi but does make it more interesting for sure

Blackbeard to conquer the World

[jackh1092]

It is Right handed.

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[Mike007]

I’d take EA out and run him in the Flogas Chase on 7 Feb off level weights.

[FinalFurlong91]

If envoi wins this then he is some horse

Giving 11lbs to the second most talented horse in his decision

If asterion gets much bigger I will be forced into having a bet

[The Tatling Cheekily]

One of them to have a ‘setback’ and be a NR. 1/5.

BUY THE SUN

[DBRDBR]

They are both declared!

I’m keen on taking on Envoi Allen.

[Jasolong]

How on earth is envoi going to give asterion 11 pounds? Way I see it is that if Cheltenham was right handed asterion wouldn’t have been far off shishkin in the supreme.

Asterion seems fully capable of running in the 160s so envoi would have to put up a hell of a figure to beat him. I know he could be capable of it but he would basically have to confirm he’s a superstar on Sunday. I’d have them a lot closer in the betting that’s for sure

[He Didnt Like Ground]

Envoi is a superstar , i wouldn’t be convinced the Mullins horse is one , he didn’t deliver at Cheltenham and was 11 lengths behind shiskin , 11 pounds is a lot but I can see envoi jumping him silly

[ham]

If they both run to there converted
hurdle->jumps ratings, its actually not as big a gap as youd think, nontheless, envoi would need to run to 167+ to win on that basis, not factoring in any improvement asterion may or may not have found going over fences, envoi of course could have improved vastly for a fence also

It essentially puts them off levels on there hurdles form.

[DBRDBR]

Asterion Furlonge 11/4

[He Didnt Like Ground]

Envoi 1/2 , I’ve taken and prob take again

[Jasolong]

I fully expect Asterion to run to 160 today or maybe a little higher if he stays on his feet.
So envoi has to run in the 170s today which is some ask for a novice.
For me Asterion has to be the play. It’s a win win situation. If he wins you win money, if envoi can some how give him 11 pounds we get to witness greatness

[ham]

Doesnt need to run in the 170s to win he needs to run to 167 assuming asterion runs his hurdles rating over fences without factoring in improvement from either, 167 is vastly different from 170s, might seem a pointless response this but its not when your up at this end of the ratings.

There running off levels essentially because of the weight

It wont be as hard for envoi today as the weight suggests it should be, he looks entirely capable of running the figure i said

That being said i agree with you, thenonly bet in the race is asterion, theres no room for error on envois part whatsoever he must run bis best race to date, assuming AF is at the top of his game

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