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    Jasolong
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    I would have said this is envoi Allen’s toughest career task to date having to give asterion furlonge 11 pounds!!
    However, it’s left handed ( I’m pretty sure punchestown is left handed anyway lol) and we all know asterion in much better going right handed.
    Although if he does jump a bit straighter we could finally see just how good envoi is because asterion is some horse to beat and give 11 pounds just a shame it’s left handed

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    Nathan Hughes
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    Punchestown is right handed?? :scratch:

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    #1517559
    Nathan Hughes
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    I’m sure it is

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    #1517562
    Jasolong
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    It is forget me 😂 was thinking of leopardstown

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    Nathan Hughes
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    Certainly suits the Mullins horse that way around and weight allowance
    Not that I’m taking on Envoi but does make it more interesting for sure

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    jackh1092
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    It is Right handed.

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    #1517566
    Mike007
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    I’d take EA out and run him in the Flogas Chase on 7 Feb off level weights.

    #1517575
    FinalFurlong91
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    If envoi wins this then he is some horse

    Giving 11lbs to the second most talented horse in his decision

    If asterion gets much bigger I will be forced into having a bet

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    The Tatling Cheekily
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    One of them to have a ‘setback’ and be a NR. 1/5.

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    DBRDBR
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    They are both declared!

    I’m keen on taking on Envoi Allen.

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    Jasolong
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    How on earth is envoi going to give asterion 11 pounds? Way I see it is that if Cheltenham was right handed asterion wouldn’t have been far off shishkin in the supreme.

    Asterion seems fully capable of running in the 160s so envoi would have to put up a hell of a figure to beat him. I know he could be capable of it but he would basically have to confirm he’s a superstar on Sunday. I’d have them a lot closer in the betting that’s for sure

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    He Didnt Like Ground
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    Envoi is a superstar , i wouldn’t be convinced the Mullins horse is one , he didn’t deliver at Cheltenham and was 11 lengths behind shiskin , 11 pounds is a lot but I can see envoi jumping him silly

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    ham
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    If they both run to there converted
    hurdle->jumps ratings, its actually not as big a gap as youd think, nontheless, envoi would need to run to 167+ to win on that basis, not factoring in any improvement asterion may or may not have found going over fences, envoi of course could have improved vastly for a fence also

    It essentially puts them off levels on there hurdles form.

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    DBRDBR
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    Asterion Furlonge 11/4

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    He Didnt Like Ground
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    Envoi 1/2 , I’ve taken and prob take again

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