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  • #409913
    Avatar photoTheBluesBrother
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    On Friday’s card at Kempton they will be using the inner loop for the first time since relaying the track i.e. when the 5f race is run.

    Looking at the speed figures for last night meeting at Kempton the track is returning to normal, I made the going allowance all over at

    +0.12s/f

    per furlong, which made the going

    Standard

    .

    AW going allowance table:

    Fast +0.50s/f
    Stand/Fast +0.18s/f to +0.40s/f
    Standard -0.15s/f to +0.15s/f
    Stand/Slow -0.48s/f to -0.18s/f
    Slow -0.70s/f to -0.50s/f

    Last night’s speed figures:

    05:35 Yanabeeaa 1m3f

    45

    06:05 Silver Lace 7f

    60

    06:35 Georgian Bay 7f

    46

    07:05 Storm King 1m

    64

    07:35 Glass Office 6f

    52

    08:05 Intransigent 6f

    80

    08:35 Scottish Lake 7f

    73

    #410057
    Avatar photoTheBluesBrother
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    After Friday’s meeting at Kempton, I found the going to be

    +0.10s/f

    per furlong which makes the going

    standard

    .

    The inner ring was used for the first time last night after the surface was relayed, without any problems it seems.

    Even the Racing UK pundits have finally realised that the going is not standard to slow.

    AW going allowance table:

    Fast +0.50s/f
    Stand/Fast +0.18s/f to +0.40s/f
    Standard -0.15s/f to +0.15s/f
    Stand/Slow -0.48s/f to -0.18s/f
    Slow -0.70s/f to -0.50s/f

    Last night speed figures:

    05:45 Howyadoingnotsobad 5f

    75

    06:15 Ustura 1m2f

    71

    06:45 Bint Alzain 6f

    72

    07:20 Fever Few 7f

    68

    07:55 Love Magic 7f

    59

    08:25 Switzerland 1m

    67

    08:55 Fast Finian 7f

    59

    #410264
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    I see the going description for Kempton tonight is described as Standard to Slow (watering). Have they been watering ever since the new material was added?

    #410319
    Avatar photoTheBluesBrother
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    Kempton’s Monday night meeting 20/08/12 again had the official going as

    standard to slow

    .
    The going last night was

    +0.07s/f

    per furlong, making the going

    standard

    8).

    AW going allowance table:

    Fast +0.50s/f
    Stand/Fast +0.18s/f to +0.40s/f
    Standard -0.15s/f to +0.15s/f
    Stand/Slow -0.48s/f to -0.18s/f
    Slow -0.70s/f to -0.50s/f

    When compiling my speed figures I never use WFA as this corrupts the speed figures, if anybody needs to compare my speed figures against the official ratings, which you can, for 2yo’s add

    9lb

    , and for 3yo’s add

    3lb

    , these corrections are valid only for the months of

    July/August

    .

    Example:

    Stripped Bear

    official rating

    50

    .
    Speed figure 55+9=

    64

    Stripped Bear

    improved his official rating by

    4 lengths, "14lbs"

    8)
    Watch the video if you don’t believe it.

    Yesterday’s speed figures:

    06:20 Stripped Bear 5f

    55

    06:50 Dynamic Duo 1m2f

    67

    07:20 My Mate Jake 1m2f

    71

    07:50 Ziefhd 7f

    67

    08:20 Cap O´Rushes 1m

    62

    08:50 Melodrama 1m4f

    74

    09:20 Subtle Knife 7f

    69

    #412727
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    The question is blue brother has any inconsistencies arisen after this period of racing? Have any horses improved where such progression was unlikely?

    Do you think it is still ok to use the standard time prior to august 2012 as a standard time for afterwards?

    Is what i would like to know is why is the inside of the outer track, significantly lighter in colour compared with the outer?

    What have they done to the run in?

    Has the inside course been treated any differently?

    Where and when or how often has watering taken place?

    #412852
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    Is what i would like to know is why is the inside of the outer track, significantly lighter in colour compared with the outer?

    What have they done to the run in?

    Has the inside course been treated any differently?

    Where and when or how often has watering taken place?

    This was covered in my post of 11 August.
    We have been fed a lot of misinformation.

    #412853
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    read your post, i’m still left very confused? My eyes are telling me alot, but I was wondering if we have any information than can be confirmed. I guess no one knows. I see you said that alot of mis information has been fed, but what part is mis information and what is information.

    #412929
    Davidpleat
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    and people wonder why British racing is going down the tubes….

    #416139
    Avatar photoTheBluesBrother
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    Kempton’s going allowance last night 10/10/12 nearly went off my going allowance scale.

    Tamarkuz

    broke the 2yo juvenile course record, when I assessed the going allowance at

    0.00s/f

    per furlong, his speed rating was

    104

    , I knew then that the track was riding faster than it has ever been.

    After calculating the going allowance, I ended up with a going allowance of

    +0.41s/f

    per furlong which gave

    Tamarkuz

    a revised speed rating of

    66

    , which is only average.

    AW going allowance table:

    Fast +0.50s/f
    Stand/Fast +0.18s/f to +0.40s/f
    Standard -0.15s/f to +0.15s/f
    Stand/Slow -0.48s/f to -0.18s/f
    Slow -0.70s/f to -0.50s/f

    Last Night’s Speed Figures:

    05:30 Hardy Blue 6f 0.41

    30

    06:00 Spartan Spirit 1m3f 0.41

    63

    06:30 Living The Life 7f 0.41

    35

    07:00 Steelriver 7f 0.41

    56

    07:30 Alraased 7f 0.41

    80

    08:00 Tamarkuz 7f 0.41

    66

    08:30 Beat Route 1m3f 0.41

    74

    09:00 Blue Deer 7f 0.41

    61

    I await with interest to see what Dave Edwards "Top Speed" makes the going allowance, it has to be over

    +0.30s/f

    per furlong 8)

    #416147
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    Any idea why it is suddenly riding so fast?

    #416191
    Slowly Away
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    I had it as ‘Fast 12’

    Under my system for going/class allowance that means that the average of the 3 fastest races was 12lbs faster than the horse’s BHA ratings

    My final figures came out as

    05:30 Hardy Blue 6f – 12
    06:00 Spartan Spirit 1m3f – 56
    06:30 Living The Life 7f – 19
    07:00 Steelriver 7f – 48
    07:30 Alraased 7f – 87
    08:00 Tamarkuz 7f – 68
    08:30 Beat Route 1m3f – 71
    09:00 Blue Deer 7f – 54

    all ratings adjusted to 10 stone

    #416212
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    I have the going at 17lb faster than standard. I have a figure of 93p for Tamarkuz (He was impressive) this includes the 23lb WFA allowence for 2yo’s to bring it in line with official ratings.

    #416218
    Slowly Away
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    Was that your email on RUK, Blues Brother ?………….. :D

    #416242
    Avatar photoTheBluesBrother
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    Was that your email on RUK, Blues Brother ?………….. :D

    Yes it was, the clerk of the course harrowed the track after race 2 slowing the going down :shock:

    Working out the going allowances for last night meeting 11/10/12 was a nightmare, the first 2 races I had the going at

    +0.30s/f

    per furlong and after they harrowed the track the going dropped from

    stand/fast

    to

    standard

    at

    +0.15s/f

    per furlong.

    AW going allowance table:

    Fast +0.50s/f
    Stand/Fast +0.18s/f to +0.40s/f
    Standard -0.15s/f to +0.15s/f
    Stand/Slow -0.48s/f to -0.18s/f
    Slow -0.70s/f to -0.50s/f

    Last night’s speed figures:

    (No WFA)
    05:20 Volcanic Wind 7f 7.00 0.30

    79

    05:50 Ferjaan 6f 6.00 0.30

    61

    06:20 Exactement 6f 6.00 0.15

    60

    06:50 Lea Valley Black 1m 8.00 0.15

    53

    07:20 Snowboarder 1m 8.00 0.15

    68

    07:50 Belgian Bill 7f 7.00 0.15

    92

    08:20 Wildomar 1m4f 12.00 0.15

    78

    08:50 Squad 2m 16.00 0.15

    33

    #416246
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    Ive got ‘slow 10’ for tonight but I’ve only averaged 2 races, Belgian Bill and Wildomar

    The other races were either very slow or very fast (Volcanic Wind)

    At the moment I have slow 10 for Volcanic Wind which gives him a rating of 109 which would make him Listed or group 3 class. This isn’t out of the question but now that I know the ground was harrowed I’m going to use last nights allowance figure for that one race and that will reduce his rating to 87

    I’ve got Belgian Bill on 95 which I’m happy with as I have recent ratings for him of 93, 91, 90 so he’s running around the same as he’s done before

    It’s not ideal to base the allowance on two races but there we go………….

    #416247
    MrUnoHugh
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    Pretty poor card for me at Kempton yesterday.

    65.97

    Hardy Blue

    80.27

    Spartan Spirit

    76.91

    Living The Life

    82.74

    Steelriver

    84.01

    Alraased

    77.63

    Tamarkuz

    84.12

    Beat Route

    78.30

    Blue Deer

    The only standout from the card would be STEELRIVER who has run to around a mark of

    84

    , was the card riding fast? probably a little but no more than usual really.

    Today’s meeting different story.

    98.69

    Volcanic Wind

    79.37

    Ferjaan

    74.58

    Exactement

    73.25

    Lea Valley Black

    79.50

    Snowboarder

    81.54

    Belgian Bill

    91.95

    Wildomar

    70.39

    Squad

    Probably exposed myself a lovely three year old here to the masses, run to around

    95

    and WILDOMAR also very useful.

    #416275
    Avatar photoTheBluesBrother
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    If I thought working out the going allowance at Kempton last night 11/10/12 was a nightmare, welcome to the dark side when I tried to assess the going allowance at

    AYR

    .

    Due to rail movements and a totally different going allowance on the straight course compared to the round course, I am working towards 3 going allowances because the rain continued to fall thoughtout the meeting yesterday :shock:

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