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will you stop posting in between me and my posts I feel like an idiot
I went searching for it got back here and you posted the URL http://www.racinguk.com/page/Features/0,,12542,00.html
A great interview.
Have tried for the past half hour to watch it AJ on the website but it looks like the screen has frozen! Will hopefully see it on Racing replay later,not that it will change my opinion of retiring Kauto star as i first said it back in August! I still believe the horse has nothing left to prove and connections are tempting fate carrying on with him,that fall at Cheltenham has left psychological scars and they wont emerge until he"s put under pressure to jump! Bit like last Saturday really,most would have fallen,AP did a miraculous job to stay on!
Retire him Now
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So he fluked his way through the rest of the race then, including over the last?
If only Paul Nicholls was as gifted as you.
What utter tripe you talk. God forbid anything did happen to him but who would ask questions if it did?
HOW VERY DARE YOU! Being the King of Foresight i"ll tell you the Headlines now! (For arguments sake and not to tempt fate i"ll say he was pulled up in the Gold Cup,returns sound but is retired on the spot) "
WARNING SIGNS WERE THERE!
and there will be more than just me questioning the credibility of his connections and their lust for more Gold!
Incredibly connections were Bullish right up to the off that Kauto Star was in the form of his life then post race "I knew he wasn"t right all through the race" Unbelievably Kauto is fine being saddled and is a sick horse after! Just shows things can change dramatically during the race itself,particularly when the horse is put under pressure! He"s gone from being in tip top condition to running 20lb below his best, a nose bleed to an infection in the space of a few days! his build up to the race went smoothly for 2 months and suddenly this! Concerns me for sure!http://www.racinguk.com/page/Features/0,,12542,00.html
A great interview.
Have tried for the past half hour to watch it AJ on the website but it looks like the screen has frozen!
I’ve never got to watch
any
feature on the RUK site, all I ever get is that stupid dancing symbol in the middle of the frame, bloody site!
When Paul Nichols said he was not right at the start of the race, I believe him to mean that he did not start off in his usual manner and could see early on that something was not quite right.
there is proven evidence that a virus usually does not manifest itself until the horse is put under stress and by that I mean the activity of the race itself, the parade, the canter to the start, the procedures at the start and the start itself. this is time of stress and tension for all concerned and that in itself was enough to take the edge off Kauto Star now we know that he had some sort of low level bug.
So there we have it, I thought it was age related and I was wrong, the horse was not quite right. He’ll be back on the track, hopefully for one last glorious hurrah in a great career, he deserves our cheers one more time doesn’t he?
They’re not machines TAPK and very often, as the best of them will testify, trainers do not know EXACTLY what is going on, they simply use their skill and experience to judge as best they can. The best of them get it right more often than the others but it’s not until a horse runs that sometimes the issues manifest themselves, there may be no outward sign beforehand and no way of telling. But I know you know all that.
There is no reason whatsoever why Kauto Star shouldn’t continue his career. A loss or two won’t diminish his status as one of the all time greats one iota. They’re racehorses and they are for racing.
The only ‘tell-tale sign’ with KS is that perhaps he isn’t as good as he was (in fact he almost certainly isn’t) and I take the point that no one wants to see him labour and dwindle down the rankings to mediocrity. I’m 100% certain connections won’t let that happen.
Interesting comments from Clive Smith in today’s RP where he said AP wasn’t the jockey for Kauto and that he is looking forward to seeing Ruby back on board.
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Interesting comments from Clive Smith in today’s RP where he said AP wasn’t the jockey for Kauto and that he is looking forward to seeing Ruby back on board.
I don’t think he was.
There’s absolutely no evidence to suggest that McCoy did anything wrong – as I’ve said in the Big Races thread, he seemed to ride a perfectly sound race – but I doubt very much whether Kauto Star appreciated having him on board. He just isn’t stylish or delicate enough.
Timmy Murphy or Graham Lee would have been far more suitable.
..then again, look how many big races are won by last minute stand in jockeys that know nothing much about the horse.
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..then again, look how many big races are won by last minute stand in jockeys that know nothing much about the horse.
I don’t know that that many "big races" have been won by stand-in jockeys, but when a horse relies on establishing a rhythm I don’t think it pays to use someone like McCoy.
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What utter tripe you talk. God forbid anything did happen to him but who would ask questions if it did?
HOW VERY DARE YOU! Being the King of Foresight i"ll tell you the Headlines now! (For arguments sake and not to tempt fate i"ll say he was pulled up in the Gold Cup,returns sound but is retired on the spot) "
WARNING SIGNS WERE THERE!
and there will be more than just me questioning the credibility of his connections and their lust for more Gold!
Incredibly connections were Bullish right up to the off that Kauto Star was in the form of his life then post race "I knew he wasn"t right all through the race" Unbelievably Kauto is fine being saddled and is a sick horse after! Just shows things can change dramatically during the race itself,particularly when the horse is put under pressure! He"s gone from being in tip top condition to running 20lb below his best, a nose bleed to an infection in the space of a few days! his build up to the race went smoothly for 2 months and suddenly this! Concerns me for sure!Only thing you are concerned about is convincing the world you have a crystal ball shoved up your backside.
Lust for gold!! what utter garbage….you really think Clive Smith needs or even cares about the money? Lust for success perhaps but there’s nothing wrong with trying to win.Your talking more nonsense than you were before. And don’t shout at me you swine
What’s unbelieveable about an infection not showing up before a race? I swear on my childrens life the same thing happened to a horse I owned and we tested him before he ran…finsihed 2nd at Haydock and was really distreesed and he’d ben catching pigeons at home. It turned a bout of ringworm that appeared the next day.
What gets me about that crystal ball of your is that David Pipe is quite excited about the prospect of allowing Great Endeavour to take his chance in the Gold Cup now there is a doubt about Kauto Star yet you tip him up for another race…..think you better get the chammy out and give it a clean
Interesting comments from Clive Smith in today’s RP where he said AP wasn’t the jockey for Kauto and that he is looking forward to seeing Ruby back on board.
I don’t think he was.
There’s absolutely no evidence to suggest that McCoy did anything wrong – as I’ve said in the Big Races thread, he seemed to ride a perfectly sound race – but I doubt very much whether Kauto Star appreciated having him on board. He just isn’t stylish or delicate enough.
Timmy Murphy or Graham Lee would have been far more suitable.
But the horse still would not have won.
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I was commenting on Clive Smith’s statement that McCoy wasn’t the right jockey for the horse, Gaz; whether another jockey would have won on him or not is irrelevant given the circumstances.
Only thing you are concerned about is convincing the world you have a crystal ball shoved up your backside.
Well i still cant stop Porridge from sticking to my Pan!
By the way i likeGreat Endeavour
a lot,
but Gold Cup horse,he is not,did you notice how i made that rhyme?
I think with AP, he rides chasers as though they’re hurdlers. OK, perhaps Kauto Star wouldn’t have won with Ruby Walsh on board but I feel as if he’d have been a lot closer to the winner. AP seems to have an aggressive edge to his way of riding when he goes in for a jump.
Maybe I’m still feeling a touch sore after Gloria Victis
I think with AP, he rides chasers as though they’re hurdlers. OK, perhaps Kauto Star wouldn’t have won with Ruby Walsh on board but I feel as if he’d have been a lot closer to the winner. AP seems to have an aggressive edge to his way of riding when he goes in for a jump.
Maybe I’m still feeling a touch sore after Gloria Victis
Inexperienced horse who never should have been in the race. I said it then and I say it now. I can’t lay that at McCoy’s feet i’m afraid. I do agree that McCoy rides chasers like hurdlers though.
I went searching for it got back here and you posted the URL 
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