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I posted this a mere two weeks ago.
03 Sep 2014 08:52
Postby Woolf121 on 03 Sep 2014 08:52” You will have your little joke at my expense and what usually happens immediately afterwards is that a scandal breaks involving jockeys or dope. Tune in to the news.
My main complaint about racing is and always has been non triers and as the previous poster correctly pointed out there are significant numbers every day.
Ask yourselves this question, those of you who find it worthwhile to continue betting. How often is your selection beaten by a runner beaten many lengths in it’s previous races?
The majority of runners in most races perform at 20% below their best. Now tell me the form book is a useful weapon to beat the bookies”.It happened again.
Not sure what point you think you’ve made, Woolfe. I’m glad you picked a winner though.
It’s particularly bad and unsettling news if a senior weighing room figure like McGrath is found guilty. He’s been in the saddle since 1993/94 and is a member of the PJA, although he has ‘temporarily’ stepped down from that role until the end of this investigation.
Not sure what point you think you’ve made, Woolfe. I’m glad you picked a winner though.
It’s particularly bad and unsettling news if a senior weighing room figure like McGrath is found guilty. He’s been in the saddle since 1993/94 and is a member of the PJA, although he has ‘temporarily’ stepped down from that role until the end of this investigation.
The point is that racing is rotten and the more the true believers on RF belittle my claims the more evidence emerges to endorse my contention.
It’s time to hand out hefty penalties to jockeys and trainers alike to dissuade others from screwing the general public on an industrial scale.
Yep another bad day Wolfie …of course you are quite wrong to even suspect that racing is bent at times ….
AW hasnt started yet …..yet more scandal awaits … , how long before new bettors get the message ….I dont envy the BHA …damned if they do reveal , and damned if they dont
sad really ….tip of iceberg methinks (in my opinion )
Just how many more investigations are ongoing ???
This isn’t in the same league but among other dodgy stories such as the Mulrennan/Dwyer alleged cheating case which was quickly forgotten, I’m just waiting for the powers at be to make this news disappear and make everyone believe racing is a truly wonderful crime-free sport.
Not sure what point you think you’ve made, Woolfe. I’m glad you picked a winner though.
If the betting on these races are via online bookmakers or Betfair, which leave an infallible paper trail shared with the BHA, one would have to wonder at the staggering stupidity of those involved!
Mike
Greedy people are stupid and that is why they get caught, simples.
As for racing being bent/corrupt call it what you will, I have been following the sport for over 40 years and can never recall it being clean.
You pays you money and takes your chance
Innocent until proven guilty?
Yes, there are cheats in racing. Just as there are players match fixing in football and cricket and taking drugs in athletics and cycling.
It’s far worse than the odd chancer or a small number of crooks, you will find these exposures occurring on a regular basis. Disguised ability is endemic throughout racing.
Sad too that the daughter of one of the great northern racing trainers (Sam Hall) is implicated in this.
The sport is starting to look in bad shape. And of course the other poster was right to mention the Mulrennan/Dwyer tape. It really does annoy me that day in day out commentators and presenters wax lyrical about these two even though a tape has been posted on youtube (and to the best of my knowledge remains there) which if authentic (and there has been no official denial by either Dwyer or Mulrennan) appears to reveal them planning to fix races. Surely they ought to be roundly condemned by the racing industry?
I happened upon an old Terry Ramsden documentary on youtube the other day and he is filmed at an America racetrack (Santa Anita to be exact) where he describes the racing there as so different from the UK, where every horse is trying because the sport isn’t being bled dry by bookmakers.
I think he has a point. I am not saying racing in the States doesn’t have scandals however where you have tote monopolies the racing does seem to have less of the sort of betting scandals as we have in the UK.
A brother of mine has always insisted that a sign similar to that on cigarettes warning about the risk involved with racing should be hung outside each race track.
A brother of mine has always insisted that a sign similar to that on cigarettes warning about the risk involved with racing should be hung outside each race track.
I admire the sentiment but how many people still smoke? While there are mug betting shop punters who will bet on everything and anything nothing will change
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