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    Avatar photoZarkava
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    Aha, yes indeed they’ve changed. Delegator is utterly buggered. Buggered buggered buggered. Zero chance from there. Amico Fritz, Dalghar, Oracle, War Artist, Swiss Diva and Winker Watson have a marginally better chance.

    Winner comes from 3, 4 or 9. Elzaam, Monsieur Chev or Bated Breath.

    #363877
    Avatar photoBig Bucks
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    repeating it doesn’t make it true, Zark…the key is to be flexible in analysis…he has an outstanding chance wherever he’s drawn, i fear and may back bated breath, the next best horse in there, but as it’s a sprint nothing would be a surprise, they all have a chance of sorts

    #363891
    racinglover
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    seems a pretty open race to me, also not really sure how anyone can completely write off star witness

    #363932
    Avatar photoWilts
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    Winker Watson E/W at 66s for me.

    MC has done me proud over the last couple of weeks, Halicarnassus at 20s last Saturday, Arabian Star at 25s a week and a half ago, Montaff E/W at 25s in the Northumberland Plate, Samitar at 16s at Royal Ascot, Betty Fontaine a couple of weeks ago in a double.

    #363939
    Avatar photoBosranic
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    Regal Parade and Dream Ahead.

    After a couple of unsatisfactory efforts,

    Regal Parade

    registered two victories in as many starts at a similar stage last season, with his most high profile success coming in the Prix Maurice de Gheest.

    He has travelled well enough in his races this season to suggest that all the old ability remains and with the forecast rain and large field sure to suit, he looks terrific value and I have taken the 25s available.

    Dream Ahead

    finished a creditable fifth on his seaonal bow at Royal Ascot. Conditions were not ideal over a trip which stretched his stamina, and a return to six furlongs on rain softened ground look sure to suit.

    He travelled well, and the overall performance suggested he has trained on.

    #364059
    Avatar photoHimself
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    Dream Ahead – undoubtedly a sprinter ! :wink:

    I think even Black Caviar would have struggled to beat him on that performance. Excellent ride by Hayley Turner.

    Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning

    #364062
    Avatar photoIan
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    Great to see Hayley get a first group one. Dream Ahead won easily, plenty in hand and a completely different level to the rest of them. Could be the best British sprinter for years.

    #364063
    Venusian
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    Top performance by Dream Ahead, although soundness issues are going to restrict his future programme.

    Star Witness didn’t look as well as he did at Ascot.

    It seems that horses travelling from the southern hemisphere find it difficult to hold their form, their body clocks seem to revert after a few weeks. He looked very wintry in appearance.

    #364068
    darren83
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    We brits got a word it is called Gutted :cry: looked like holding on until Dream Ahead went past him.I wish Turner would of got in trouble instead.Anyway well done to the backers and Simcock and Hayley Turner.

    #364073
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    Has Richard Hills forgotten how impressive Elzaam was when covered up at Newbury? The owner hasn’t got that many class acts at the moment and the jockey appears to be intent on testing loyalty to the limit.

    #364099
    Getzippy
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    Bated Breath ran well and had a lovely position.

    Dream Ahead looked magnificent and won easily. Maybe he will dominate these rags…?

    Such an imposing beast. Wish he’d run like that against Frankel last year (when I had a purple note on him).

    Zip

    #364122
    marbine
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    Dream Ahead was awesome. A very good ride too, only bad luck threatened to beat her. Turn of foot was special from the 200m to the 100m.

    I think a lot of the Aussies don’t handle the Newmarket undulations. Choisir had run 3rd in a Caulfield Guineas (1600m) & Starspangled banner won that race, Alverta had also won over more than 1400m. (note that Scenic Blast ran a distant 2nd in an EI weakened CG).They handled the tough 1200m better than the other southerners whom all had 1200m form at home or at Ascot.

    Would Dream Ahead have troubled Black Caviar today? At Newmarket, probably, she isn’r proven over further than an Ozzie 1200m. At Flemington I dare say he fights out a distant 2nd with Hay List :-)

    #364129
    racinglover
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    might be pushing it just a bit to say black caviar would’ve been troubled.

    #365245
    andyod
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    Motivator or terminator or whatever the Godophin horse is called was supposed to win to show that they had made the big breakthrough.So what went wrong? Are they consigned to the great outdoors or what?Quarter horses or racehorses they still must be able to run.

    #365717
    Avatar photoHurdygurdyman
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    Best sprinting performance I’ve seen in 10 years. He was so composed it looked more like the finish you’d expect to see in a middle distance race not in a hell for leather sprint.

    He may just be a very special horse even better than most think. He certainly won with an absolute ton in hand and I’d fancy him at the likely odds to beat Black Caviar if the cross swords.

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