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    GM23
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    Would love to see COT back over 1m4f in the BC Turf but I guess they’re going to make absolute tits of themselves in the Classic as usual.

    I’ll easily take him on in the Classic as don’t think he’ll even make the frame. You have to be trained on dirt to race on dirt.

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    Mike007
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    #1705246
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    A “normal race”, as in a race / day that didn’t have the remnants of a hurricane up their backsides that greatly helped the prominent (and in particular the front) runner.

    City Of Troy did it from the front, Ghostwriter raced prominently, Calandagan came from the back so was at a disadvantage given the wind. Nothing else showed their form.

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    Avatar photoCork All Star
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    “You have to be trained on dirt to race on dirt.”

    Agree GM. I hope they don’t go down that route but I expect they will.

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    Aidan should keep that one “normal race” as an excuse for future reference

    Was the hurricane against COT down the back straight where others could take cover ??

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    I’m on at 8s for the classic
    I think if he ran I’d like to see him try and avoid the kick back

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    tbh Coolmore have Rodin for a repeat in the Turf and maybe LA too.
    So the Breeders Cup Classic makes sense.

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    Winner did it well enough, quickened off his own pace and always looked the winner from two out. Strong in numbers but not convinced about the strength of the race, but you can only beat what’s there.

    Impressed with Calandagan who did really well coming from off the pace and I’d be seriously interested in him for ‘The Arc’. Stays 1m 4f well, goes left or right handed and has shown he can act on fast and in the heavy.

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    The biggest reason to go for the Classic is the level of oppo. There is no real standout, Dornoch has established himself a bit (albeit way behind in Kentucky), the rest are a mish mash, so much so that Thorpeda Anna who has been beating up fillies all year is 3/1 fav for the Travers this sat.

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    He’s not eligible for the Arc rob.

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    City of Troy was never going to be held up. Stamina is a big strength of his so if the hurricane was such an advantage why didn’t you back him, Ginge…🤔

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    Throw in Economics (his owner is related to the sponsor of the race) and Leopardstown could end up being the race of the season

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    O’Brien says City Of Troy is “the best horse I’ve trained”. :-)

    Maybe he is actually right this time.

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    After the International, Timeform have the provisional performance rating as 130 and is still improving.

    The best horse trained by O’Brien on Timeform ratings is I believe Hawk Wing @ 136 but that was only one performance, having been injured in his next race. So HW’s rating is at least a little suspect. Interestingly Galileo was rated 134.

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    The rating for Hawk Wing was ridiculous.

    The things I want most in life are the things that I can't win.

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    Avatar photoGhost of Rob V
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    Hawk Wing was a crackerjack on his day but, sometimes, I felt as though the horse was running in pain.

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    “The rating for Hawk Wing was ridiculous”.

    Care to tell us why? :unsure:

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