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    Avatar photoJJMSports
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    Anything odds-against for Trading Leather should be deemed daylight robbery. He should be an absolute steering job.

    Trip, ground, course form. All aboard.

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    Agreed..none better than Trading Leather a real touch of class and will enjoy seeing him in the paddock tomorrow and first past the post.
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    On what they’ve done so far, Trading Leather should win, but is he going to be 100% first time up? There is one who’s form is almost as good; owner companion Penglai Pavillion. 9 1/4 lengths 5th to Treve and only 2 lengths behind Kizuna with Intello a neck in front of that. Then again… now moved to Appleby from Fabre and disappointing 3 3/4 lengths 7th when favourite for the City Of Gold at Meydan in March. I think he might need a stronger test of stamina than this is likely to give, unless making it a real test (can front run)… And that might play against Trading Leather and in to the hands of Godolphin’s rivals. So unlikely to force too strong a pace; though might try an in-running bet if PP does.

    There are however, plenty of horses capable of improvement, Brass Ring is one, but I’ve backed Gospel Choir, backed it a couple of times last year in handicaps; looked to be all about stamina over 12 furlongs at Goodwood. Absolutely amazed when well supported on reapperance at 9f. Market support indicating he’d improved over the Winter. Dropped out the back before finishing best of all for 4th behind Mull Of Killough in Earl Of Sefton. A career best effort despite the trip and pace not being to his advantage. Now back at 1m4f, I expect improvement again.

    Don’t get me wrong, Trading Leather still (imo) has over double the chance of Gospel Choir; but I’d rather take 5/1 each way Stoutey’s than 5/4 Bolger’s horse on

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    My 100% Book:
    Trading Leather 11/8, Gospel Choir 4/1, Penglai Pavilion 6/1, Brass Ring 8/1, Pether’s Moon 11/1, Renew 40/1, Times Up 66/1, Havana Beat 100/1

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    Trading Leather nap of day?, everything in his favour(ground, distance etc) I’m not too worried about the pace I think he can go from a long way out if he needs to. Penglai Pavillion’s only win came on soft and that run behind Treve was on soft aswell so it might be he shows his best on that sort of a surface. My only niggle in the nut is Bolger and it being TL’s first run of the season but it’s along way to travel to not be fully ready to land the prize and if Bolger wanted to get a run into him I’m sure he could of found one at home that said I’m sure he’ll come on for the run and bigger prizes beckon.
    I make Trading Leather a play but not a lump on job.

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    Good shout ginge.
    Think Manning should of gave the horse his head and tried slowing him down gradually instead of choking the horse but I’m only an armchair jockey and appreciate it’s harder than it looks. :P

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    On what they’ve done so far, Trading Leather should win, but is he going to be 100% first time up? There is one who’s form is almost as good; owner companion Penglai Pavillion. 9 1/4 lengths 5th to Treve and only 2 lengths behind Kizuna with Intello a neck in front of that. Then again… now moved to Appleby from Fabre and disappointing 3 3/4 lengths 7th when favourite for the City Of Gold at Meydan in March. I think he might need a stronger test of stamina than this is likely to give, unless making it a real test (can front run)… And that might play against Trading Leather and in to the hands of Godolphin’s rivals. So unlikely to force too strong a pace; though might try an in-running bet if PP does.

    There are however, plenty of horses capable of improvement, Brass Ring is one, but I’ve backed Gospel Choir, backed it a couple of times last year in handicaps; looked to be all about stamina over 12 furlongs at Goodwood. Absolutely amazed when well supported on reapperance at 9f. Market support indicating he’d improved over the Winter. Dropped out the back before finishing best of all for 4th behind Mull Of Killough in Earl Of Sefton. A career best effort despite the trip and pace not being to his advantage. Now back at 1m4f, I expect improvement again.

    Don’t get me wrong, Trading Leather still (imo) has over double the chance of Gospel Choir; but I’d rather take 5/1 each way Stoutey’s than 5/4 Bolger’s horse on

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    My 100% Book:
    Trading Leather 11/8, Gospel Choir 4/1, Penglai Pavilion 6/1, Brass Ring 8/1, Pether’s Moon 11/1, Renew 40/1, Times Up 66/1, Havana Beat 100/1

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    Thanks Nathan, I was given a huge heep of help by Godolphin. Strange tactics. :? Penglai is a stayer at the trip and has good form going from the front, so why hold him up in a race not run at a true gallop? Trading Leather has also been a front runner or ridden prominently in the past. Yet they decide to hold him up and consequently wants to get on with it, pulls hard.

    Not that I am complaining. :P

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    Yeah, crazy stuff and Bolger and Manning go hand and hand…… :lol:

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    Backed at 6/5 and agree with the thoughts on here that the way he pulled early on, surprised Manning didn’t attempt to make all on him, as Steve Mellish on RUK alluded to prior to race.

    Oh well, never mind!

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    Backed at 6/5 and agree with the thoughts on here that the way he pulled early on, surprised Manning didn’t attempt to make all on him, as Steve Mellish on RUK alluded to prior to race.

    Oh well, never mind!

    I didn’t have a bet in the race so it’s no odds to me but I simply can’t understand what they were doing with Trading Leather. Maybe they wanted to try different tactics but that horse pulled like a train, after a furlong it couldn’t have been more obvious to allow the horse it’s head especially as the horse has had good success running that way previously?

    They could’ve tried changing tactics next time if they really must once the horse has had a run and got the freshness out of him.

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