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  • #21187
    Sea Pigeon
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    Will The Package be the steamer here?

    #395482
    GDC
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    Hardly be ‘the steamer’ as he was 14s a couple of weeks agao :-)

    I have backed him but also like the chances of Charingworth from Ferdys yard who like this race too :D

    #395486
    Venture to Cognac
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    If I knew she was going, I’d be backing Leanne. She’s going the right way, and if her recent run hasn’t left it’s mark, she must have a chance. If she does line up, I’ll happily take the lower prices.

    Too many ifs and buts at the moment, loads with multiple entries. I’m another who likes The Package, bets him plenty of times in the past, and if fit, which he almost certainly will be, he’s chucked in. The Package, along with Hold On Julio (who was friendless on Betfair last night) will be very popular. Others of interest include Billie Magern, Consigliere, and Time For Rupert.

    One of my favourite races at The Festival, looks a good line up this year, though I hope a few of them above take in other targets. Can’t bet em all.

    #395488
    sketti
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    Got a feeling for charingworth and waiting to see where he turns up. He looks like an individual with more improvement to com and has impressed me.

    Also noticed Venetia Williams has been desparate to get some solid performances in with her string too make the cut. Sadly pentiffic tipped up last week. he was one i am really keen on.

    #395489
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    Or The Festival Trophy Handicap.

    The JLT Specialty sounds like a dyslexic burger.

    #395492
    Shack1
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    Or The Festival Trophy Handicap.

    The JLT Specialty sounds like a dyslexic burger.

    It’s still "The Ritz Club Chase" in my book.

    #395494
    GDC
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    Sketti: At the Northern Preview Ferdy stated Charingworth was going for this race and Lucy gets a nice tune out of the horse :-)

    ferdy also has a very nice record in the race 8)

    #395498
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    Or The Festival Trophy Handicap.

    The JLT Specialty sounds like a dyslexic burger.

    It’s still "The Ritz Club Chase" in my book.

    To me as well, it certainly had the best run of winners under that name. West Tip, Charter Party, Seagram and Rough Quest all went on to greater glory.
    Then again the "top jockey trophy" is still the Ritz Club in my head, here and at the Royal meeting.

    I googled JLT Specialty out of curiosity. I was not confronted by an amalgam of heavily processed food but by a company advising people how to avoid ambulance chasers; a bureaucrat’s dream!

    #395501
    sketti
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    GDC. Nadgers, I was hoping he would go elsewhere. I had him shortlisted for other races. Got a few in this already but will have to cover him. :(

    #395502
    sketti
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    Just had a quick look at my notes and will not be covering him in this at all. I want him over a 2m4 trip. he hasn’t got any form over further so I will avoid if he goes here.

    Are you sure you are not muddling this race up with another? Sorry if that sounds patronising? It seems strange to aim him at this race when he has never tried 3m over fences this is a test and a half.

    #395503
    sketti
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    Been allocated a very interesting 9-13 in the byrne over the ideal trip. if he goes for that I am on.

    #395506
    GDC
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    The yard have a far better chance with another fancied runner in the Byrne ridden by a certain Mr McCoy 8)

    Ferdy was clear that Lucy will ride in the JLT but the way things have been changing this week anything could happen i guess :D

    #395507
    sketti
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    Off course. Shame, I would rather have him in the byrne than this race.

    Can’t have him in this one.

    Like Baile Anrai interesting tosee where he ends up next week.

    #395849
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    The Horse that I am really keen on here is Hold On Julio. The only thing that stops me short of thinking he might be the best bet of the meeting, is that his jumping looks sketchy at times. Admittedly he has never looked like he was going to come down, but he definitely clouts the occasional fence and at times I think he jumps flat.

    He is very unexposed, and for a 9year old he has done very little racing, point to point aside. He was put up another 11lbs for his recent win at Sandown (7th Jan) but I still think the handicapper has not anywhere near caught up on him.

    As I said, in the Sandown race he chested through 2 fences in the early part of the race, and went through the 4th last too, albeit he didn’t look like coming down. After the last, the way he absolutely pulled clear of the field was so impressive.

    In his previous race, also at Sandown (5th Nov 2011) he did the same, jumped not too bad, but certainly not inspiring, however it was again after the last that he again, in a few strides, completely destroyed the field. Both races were wide margin victories (9 lengths & 11 lengths), which is impressive considering he was level jumping the last in both. The last race in particular was a very decent race, and he ran away from some very good horses.

    Obviously it’s a worry with a large field and the Cheltenham fences. However, if he takes to them, and I’m sure Alan King will have been doing a lot of work on his jumping, he is a very good bet at 13-2 with Corals (6-1 general). I think he is worth the risk and he gets my money.

    #395857
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    The Horse that I am really keen on here is Hold On Julio. The only thing that stops me short of thinking he might be the best bet of the meeting, is that his jumping looks sketchy at times. Admittedly he has never looked like he was going to come down, but he definitely clouts the occasional fence and at times I think he jumps flat.

    He is very unexposed, and for a 9year old he has done very little racing, point to point aside. He was put up another 11lbs for his recent win at Sandown (7th Jan) but I still think the handicapper has not anywhere near caught up on him.

    As I said, in the Sandown race he chested through 2 fences in the early part of the race, and went through the 4th last too, albeit he didn’t look like coming down. After the last, the way he absolutely pulled clear of the field was so impressive.

    In his previous race, also at Sandown (5th Nov 2011) he did the same, jumped not too bad, but certainly not inspiring, however it was again after the last that he again, in a few strides, completely destroyed the field. Both races were wide margin victories (9 lengths & 11 lengths), which is impressive considering he was level jumping the last in both. The last race in particular was a very decent race, and he ran away from some very good horses.

    Obviously it’s a worry with a large field and the Cheltenham fences. However, if he takes to them, and I’m sure Alan King will have been doing a lot of work on his jumping, he is a very good bet at 13-2 with Corals (6-1 general). I think he is worth the risk and he gets my money.

    From memory it was the first railway fence that he got wrong, after that it’s hard to get on an even stride till they leave the back straight. (I haven’t re-run these yet)
    I’ve no worries about his jumping, he’s got neat feet and a great sense of balance, he looked a hell of horse in points up here and went up the stiff hill at Kelso at a real lick so we know he goes on undulating left hand tracks, we also know from there and Sandown that the Cheltenham hill will hold no fears.
    I doubt if the handicapper is remotely close to catching up with him, this time next year the current price could well look like stealing sweeties from a pram.

    #395862
    BigG
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    I agree completely with you CS, the way he finishes is so impressive that I also have no fear that he will power away up the Cheltenham hill. I would be happy going over the last if he is within a few lengths of the leading horse. Again I agree, even with the 11lb raise after Sandown, I think he is still well ahead of the handicapper.

    I did watch the two races at Sandown, and the one at Kelso prior to them. If you watch, I think you will see that he did make a couple of blunders, and a few sketchy jumps….commented on by the commentator, he is however clever as you point out, and as I mentioned he has never looked like coming down.

    I’m excited about seeing him at Cheltenham, he really could be quite some horse.

    #395902
    raymo61
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    My three against the field are Leanne, Fruity O’Rooney and Zarrafakt.
    This is a very open race and I can certainly make a case for the shorter priced ones not winning. e.g Quantitive too much weight , Julio can’t jump well not well enough anyway at Cheltenham pace which as we all know is half a stride quicker than anywhere else.The Package too long away to win a competitive race here!

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