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James Reveley – An Absolute Disgrace

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    stilvi
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    He was very poor on Cue To Cue but should undoubtedly have won on Crowning Jewel. No wonder they backed the McManus runner. Stewards should throw the book at him.

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    robnorth
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    Can’t see what the problem was with the ride on Cue To Cue. James Reveley eased her into contention on the final bend, but she wasn’t good enough to match the first two from that point. Third was about as good as she was on the day, but I’d be interested if she’s dropped back to mares’ only company.

    #379770
    robnorth
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    ..and the alternative view of the Crwoning Jewel run is that he probably did quite well to get that one as close as he did. Crowning Jewel made a pig’s ear of each of flights down the far side and landed flatfooted at each. He was better in the straight and picked up well enough. In retrospect James Reveley might agree he should have been closer to the pace, but isn’t hindsight a fine thing? It’s worth bearing in mind that the rest of the runners were strung out like washing. The form may just be quite decent.

    By the way, watch out for Capital Venture as he’s now got a handicap mark. He won a bumper beating Simply Ned at Kelso in the spring, but he needs farther than 2 miles. He can get a handicap mark now and I would imagine his mark might be helpful once he’s campaigned over 2m 4f+.

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    Hippo Joe
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    I always think that James Reveley and Sam Thomas both stand too far out of their ground on hold-up horses, and while it looks good when it comes off it looks awful when it doesn’t.

    I don’t think today’s Reveley rides were a particularly good example, but I know exactly wwhat you mean.

    Timmy Murphy has a lot to answer for.

    #379784
    Hippo Joe
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    I also meant to say, does James still have his job with Nick Williams? Yesterday he missed the Newbury ride on Urbain de Sivola and went to Musselburgh to ride two poor chances for his father.

    #379785
    ricky lake
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    Stilvi

    I am glad you lost ……pocket talking is very poor and should be banned in my opinion

    have a real unpleasant evening wont you !!!!!

    :o

    #379789
    Coggy
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    Hippo Joe – Timmy Murphy is an absolute genius on a hold up horse. Its hardly his fault if other jockeys try it and get it wrong.

    #379793
    stilvi
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    ..and the alternative view of the Crwoning Jewel run is that he probably did quite well to get that one as close as he did. Crowning Jewel made a pig’s ear of each of flights down the far side and landed flatfooted at each. He was better in the straight and picked up well enough. In retrospect James Reveley might agree he should have been closer to the pace, but isn’t hindsight a fine thing? It’s worth bearing in mind that the rest of the runners were strung out like washing. The form may just be quite decent.

    By the way, watch out for Capital Venture as he’s now got a handicap mark. He won a bumper beating Simply Ned at Kelso in the spring, but he needs farther than 2 miles. He can get a handicap mark now and I would imagine his mark might be helpful once he’s campaigned over 2m 4f+.

    Rather than just appearing to put an opposite view as you so often do why not just give us your own opinion. Do you believe that the winner was the better horse and would have won whatever Reveley had done?

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    cormack15
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    Both Malt Master and Crowning Jewel are worth taking away from this. I think the winner had a bit more to give so I do think the best horse probably won.

    It always looks bad when you are ‘closest at finish’ in the manner that Crowning Jewel found himself but, as Rob says, jumping was poor, it’s still early days and they still have plenty horse to go to war with. One to keep an eye on for sure.

    #379814
    robnorth
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    Rather than just appearing to put an opposite view as you so often do why not just give us your own opinion. Do you believe that the winner was the better horse and would have won whatever Reveley had done?

    stilvi

    Firstly, having watched the race I formed a view which was opposite to yours. There’s more than one way of looking at a race and if I can avoid ‘the common angle’ then over time I reckon I can gain an advantage. If you object to that then I’m happy to assume I’m doing the right thing!

    In answer to the second question, I suspect so, yes.

    Rob

    #379821
    davidjohnson
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    Very hard to think that the winner wasn’t the best horse on the day, but with a better ride, the first 2 would probably have pulled further clear of the third. It’s alright suggesting the horse made mistakes, but so often the jockey is a key part in the horses jumping too. I don’t watch a lot of nothern jumps racing, but I know people that do, and I’m often hearing of Reveley riding in such similar fashion as to today, dropping something out, seeming to have little awareness of what pace they’ve gone and then allowing races to develop around him, often failing to get the very best out of his mount.

    #379830
    LUKE
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    Was watching the betfair chase last week without a bet and very early on in the race I got the distinct impression that Revely was out of his depth.

    #379833
    Coggy
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    Whilst not young Reveleys greatest fan, he is still young and could improve with experience.
    On the plus side, Cottin in France must have faith in him as he is putting him up in Grade 2 and 3 races tomorrow.

    #379840
    Rubyisgodinthesaddle
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    Clueless rider….

    Another of the self anointed star of the future. This guy got beat on a Irish Pointer must be 4 weeks ago at least that was punted off the boards up at Wetherby or somewhere like that. Arrived 4f too early and got beaten by being there 2 early.

    #379875
    Coggy
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    Ruby – Sorry to query this, but for clarity purposes, which ride is this that you are talking about ?
    "4 weeks ago at least that was punted off the boards at Wetherby or somewhere like that" is not helpful.

    #379880
    Onthesteal
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    I backed Cue to Cue, Stilv, and all I can say after watching the race a few times is she was simply out-stayed by the Sue Smith horse.

    Came there looking like she was really going to get involved and was 4L behind at the third last, only for the gap to increase to 6 and 14 at the line.

    I’m also not sure if this particular ‘Kings Theatre’ appreciated the softer going than she encountered a couple of weeks back. I stayed loyal to her and backed her on the strength that I thought she’d improve for it!

    #379891
    Hurdygurdyman
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    He was very poor on Cue To Cue but should undoubtedly have won on Crowning Jewel. No wonder they backed the McManus runner. Stewards should throw the book at him.

    Mate you really have to learn how to read a race your comments on James Reavely are way out of order. James had AP well in his sights knowing he had plenty of horse under him. A definite hold up horse on 2 separate occasion he moved closer to the leader to get into a striking position and on 2 separate occasion the horse made bad blunder which lost him the ground he had gained.

    The errors couldn’t have come at a worse time but that’s novice hurdling and no decent jockey is going to knock 10 bells out of a young horse who clearly had no chance of winning turning for home.

    Crowning Jewel was was probably an unlucky loser as were you but unfortunate things happen in novice races. You should learn to spot them and take advantage not come off like some old codger who got out of bed on the wrong side.

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