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“Pisstake?”
To an extent, no doubt – the tongue is never far from the cheek here at TRF – but many a true word written in jest.
The word “whip” is a problem for racing, and, whatever its name, so is jockeys appearing to hit them with it, presumably to make them run faster than they might otherwise be inclined to run.
TRF isn’t representative of the wider public, but it is IMO broadly representative of racing fans and I would actually be quite interested to see what WE would call it if it was our call, not the BHA’s.
The general public aren’t going to be fooled, says the ever-intrepid and thoroughly-modern (well, compared to me) Archipenko.
But can they be gaslighted, say I?
Only one nomination each so, as you can see, I’ve changed mine….
“The Collector”
“The Magic Wand”
“The Motivator”
“The Cush”
“The Communicator”
“The Hug”
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"The cush is an aid to get the best out of a horse.
If there was no cush then we’d get the best out of far fewer horses and as a result racing becomes far less competitive. Inconsistency would be much more of a problem than it is today and put hold up horses at a severe disadvantage. Probably lead to trainers using devices worse than a cush at home that horses may think were going to be used on track and therefore flee (race faster).…And as said before, if the cush goes then no way can the killer hard fences and hurdles of jump racing be allowed.
It will be a totally different sport without the cush and if getting rid because it’s supposedly cruel there’ll be no going back to “cruel racing” if the no cush races don’t work. End of Racing full stop!
Value Is Everything@IanDavies gaslighted, for sure 😂😂.
A modern tennis racket or golf club doesn’t look anything like what was used in the seventies either but they didn’t have their names changed. The design of sports equipment evolves through time. The whip is one of the few that’s designed to deliver a softer blow than it used to.
No need to fool the public or gaslight them, just explain why the “cush” is not the same as the old “whip”. CAS is right. Put a stall on every racecourse and let the non-racing media also see the difference between an old whip and a cush.
Most people are not stupid, they just need to be educated.
Value Is EverythingGolfers or tennis players don’t hit an animal with something called a “whip” though, Richard. (The very name conjures up an appalling image). If they did then they’d soon change the name and educate people that the club / racket was not the same.
Value Is EverythingI don’t disagree with educating the public by showing the modern whip to punters, at the racecourse.
But the only way you can really tell what the horse feels is to make the person run around, to get some adrenaline. Then apply a few blows to bare skin at full force in the forehand position 🤷♀️.
“they just need to be educated.”
What you think people “need” and what they themselves think they “need” – especially on a day out at the races – might just be two different things, GT.
I’d say the average reaction of the average human being to anyone who informs them they “need to be educated” about anything begins with “F” and ends with “off,” quite possibly with the words “you,” “patronising” and “****” strategically placed in the same sentence.
Gaslighting is definitely the more doable option!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Archipenko has kind of taken the words from my mind. Whack Chapman on his bare butt (no I don’t want to see it either) with a traditional whip and the ProCush to see the difference. I’m sure Megan wouldn’t mind inflicting this on Chappers.
The more I know the less I understand.
These days we rarely use the word “destroyed” to describe a horse being euthanised, because “destroyed” sounds far less caring than the actual act is. Why shouldn’t the same be the case with “whip”?
Value Is EverythingCorrect, nobody wants to be told they need educating.
You don’t tell the public they need educating, Ian.
You just do it.Value Is EverythingI was perhaps being slightly facetious but it could go one of two ways. People might ask why the need to change the name, what is there to hide? Harmless equipment like a tennis racket hasn’t had its name changed.
Or they may realise that it should be called something else because it’s nothing like the same implement that it was fifty years ago.
It’s a bloody difficult one, and it’s incredibly hard to come up with a name that doesn’t sound like your using a euphemism I think.
Does anyone know what they call it in non-anglohphone jurisdictions? Has terminology changed there at all? I would assume most if not all probably just call it a whip in the relevant language but I don’t speak any other languages nearly well enough to understand a racing commentary.
“But the only way you can really tell what the horse feels is to make the person run around, to get some adrenaline. Then apply a few blows to bare skin at full force in the forehand position” 🤷♀️.
And I’ve done exactly that to my own hand and can say it doesn’t hurt, Archimpenko.
Although one person’s pain is another person’s pleasure – not sure it’s the same with horses
A horse’s skin is different to humans too.I also heard an anti-racing spokesperson saying “how would you like it if having nails through your feet” LOL
Value Is EverythingThere is also the fear of the whip. We have often heard the term that the jockey is showing the horse the whip so what does this represent, the horse is being shown an implement that will inflict pain and the mindset from previous experience encourages more effort.
The more I know the less I understand.
tbh I think this thing about showing the horse the whip is a load of nonsense RTB. So too is showing the horse a hurdle or fence before a race.
If I am wrong and showing horses fences and hurdles does matter; then with races shown on ITV they must also be expecting to see Luke standing on the other side of the first fence with a microphone.
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