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Unfortunately, having asked the question Willie just blanked him and Luck disappeared down his little hole. I think everyone knew that he was never going to answer the question. Embarrassing, rather than spontaneous, I would have thought.
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At least he asked the question Stilvi,I’d rather ask and look a dick than not ask personally.What annoys me is as soon as Yorkhill runs away with the Neptune both Ruby and Willie will say this has been the plan for months so in effect Willie is the one embarrassing himself as we punters dont forget these things.Willie actually said ‘They’ll be laughing at home to that question’ thats because everybody back home wouldn’t tell their own Mother what Willies plans are.
Frankie Dettori must be short odds to feature somewhere. Him and Matt Chapman together could really be something.
Hope they give the boot to the born in a barn, horsey type that doesn’t bet, but tells us every race the fav is a nice type, and the jockey on the 50/1 outsider doesn’t get the rides he deserves bollocks.
All I want to hear as a viewer is vital information I can’t possibly know because I’m sat at home. Also, would like them to interview riders that didn’t win, and ask what went wrong. Could actually learn something from these comments instead of the stock rubbish about asking the winning rider how they feel about winning the derby or whatever.
Matt and Sean would be perfect but isn’t likely. Will probably end up with mark pougash and Jim McGrath with the languid one,Simon holt as summariser. Gina Bryce would be best to speak to winning jockeys.
To answer your question Joe, there is one absolutely stand out candidate – Ed Chamberlin, currently the main presenter for football on Sky on Sunday and Monday evening. He shows every Monday how skilful he is at getting their pundits (Neville, Carragher and now guests replacing Neville) to open up and he’s happy to take a back seat and let them talk for five or ten minutes at a time without intruding. Obviously that’s also down to his director, but anybody that has done live TV will know how rare is his ability to control but not dominate the program.
As a bonus, he’s a racing fanatic, started life working for Ladbrokes, knows AP (McCoy that is, not me), personable, charming and a family man. If you ran an ‘X Factor’ type show for the job, he’d win by a distance.
Whether he could be enticed away from his current job is another question.
Spot on.
Most festivals are midweek and/or not in the football weekends/season so I’m sure his agent can sort it. I did put up inverdale but 5live once a year at Cheltenham doesn’t qualify for all round racing expertise. However there is no way inverdale would let himself down. He is a top quality broadcaster
Didn’t Jeff Stelling used to present the Winning Post on SKY ? He would be ideal to front the show
He wouldn’t leave soccer Saturday for all the tea in timbucktoo
Blackbeard to conquer the World
Anchor: John Oaksey
Commentator: Peter O’Sullevan
Betting: Len MartinOh, they’re all dead.
Gutted.
But fast forwarding to the present….as I have watched racing with the mute button on (try it, C4 Racing, ATR, RUK, they are all so much less painful to watch with the volume off) for many years now, I don’t actually care.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Btw, re “we all love Brough” I was a really big fan of him….until I met him.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"They must ditch all the current team and start afresh.
And bringing back dinosaurs like Brough Scott would be a big step backwards, good writer and genuine fan though he is.
Free-to-air racing needs new blood, preferably not blue in colour or pals/relations of existing racing insiders.
That’s a big ask, Venusian.
Racing is a sport with a rich history of “it’s not what you know, it’s who you know” and tbh the racing media isn’t massively better.
Look at Clare Balding – how was she ever a broadcaster? Even 20 odd years down the line, I just don’t get it. Except for her father once being The Queen’s trainer, that is.
I would love to see a complete fresh start with a team entirely consisting of non privately educated people but I think Paddy Power will be offering 33/1 and its 1000 on the exchanges. =D
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I’d go for…
Sean Boyce and Robert Cooper in the studio
Gary O’Brien and Lydia Hislop on the track
Alex Hammond, who can do whatever she likes.If they wanted a presenter who wasn’t in the
horsey mould, Jeff Sterling would a very safe
pair of hands, but I don’t see him leaving
SKYSimon Holt for commentary.
Holt’s as good a commentator as you’ll find anywhere, so keep him.
Good call on Ed Chamberlin as main anchor.
Keep Cunningham and get Chapman alongside him.
Banish Alistair Down. No more wittering!
And for the love of God, don’t allow Big Mac back.
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So don't run, just like the others always do
would be nice to have someone who really tells it as it is.Not talking about man in betting shop,slagging every ride,but now and then say”well that’s not the best ride we will see this year”
Like many i think its got to be a clean sweep,go with new faces,as obviously channel 4 gang has not worked.
Would like to see them have a debate with bookies about ‘getting on’ and not just pandering to them(even though they advertise and sponsor the prog)I can remember back in mid 70s not having a problem getting on decent sums,but now its really hard work,so i would love to get this issue addressed on tv(live debate would be great)
As for who?i think lydia,melish work well together,as AP said Ed would be a great frontman and someone like APracing in the betting ring?
Good luck for coming season and have a great new year,
I don’t think the presence of a reporter in the betting ring adds anything to the program, and hasn’t done for the last ten plus years. Can anybody remember any of them coming up with something that genuinely influenced your betting or added to your knowledge? If we assume the audience falls into two camps, punters and non punters, then the punters will have an online device to hand with more up to date info than they’ll get from the TV – and the non punters aren’t interested.
And if I was producing the program, I’d also embargo the passing on of tips in the five minutes before the off, on the simple grounds that by that time any viewer who bets will have already placed his wager, and is any case unlikely to want betting advice from a TV source. The usual thing we get now is a pundit giving his idea of the winner as the last horse is being loaded, and then he hands over to Simon Holt. What’s the point of that, especially as there’s never any follow up post race when the tipped horse loses.
First item on the agenda for the ITV planning meeting – are we producing a sports program or a betting program? Decide which it is and then design a show built around that option. Almost all existing coverage fails because it has never decided which route to take, and the same could be said of much racing journalism.
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I don’t think the presence of a reporter in the betting ring adds anything to the program, and hasn’t done for the last ten plus years. Can anybody remember any of them coming up with something that genuinely influenced your betting or added to your knowledge? If we assume the audience falls into two camps, punters and non punters, then the punters will have an online device to hand with more up to date info than they’ll get from the TV – and the non punters aren’t interested.
And if I was producing the program, I’d also embargo the passing on of tips in the five minutes before the off, on the simple grounds that by that time any viewer who bets will have already placed his wager, and is any case unlikely to want betting advice from a TV source. The usual thing we get now is a pundit giving his idea of the winner as the last horse is being loaded, and then he hands over to Simon Holt. What’s the point of that, especially as there’s never any follow up post race when the tipped horse loses.
First item on the agenda for the ITV planning meeting – are we producing a sports program or a betting program? Decide which it is and then design a show built around that option. Almost all existing coverage fails because it has never decided which route to take, and the same could be said of much racing journalism.
Something that annoys more than getting tips as they are loading is seeing previous races with 3 or 4 to load, apparently as some sort of formguide.
What possible use is that as a formguide, that late? A much better guide is watching them go in the stalls.Another thing that should be knocked on the head are in depth interviews with trainers that have nothing to do with the days racing eg Willie Mullins last Saturday talking about his Cheltenham horses (again) instead of concentrating on the races at hand.
Agree someone standing in the betting ring is well past it’s sell by date but someone in studio who understands the markets and can monitor all sources of betting and pass this on to viewer is useful. Similar to what Tony Calvin does occasionally on RUK now. But it needs to be someone who knows what they’re talking about, not a Stevenson or Nevison.
fair point Alan on the betting ring,just thought he someone could liven up the ring,it might make half decent viewing(Matt Chapman on sky dogs for all his faults does it fairly well)
Jim McGrath, I’d imagine (in answer to Yeats’ question)
Why has Brough Scott’s day gone? I’d hazard a fairly confident guess that the majority of those who still follow racing are baby-boomers+ who grew up with the understated, well-spoken, quite knowledgeable Scott and his return would be welcomed. Despite enunciating a pleasing Received Pronunciation I don’t think he’s public school either, so shouldn’t get under the skin of those with an inferiority complex. And 70 is the new 50 innit?
My dream team would be Sean Boyce alone in a studio and any old race-caller
Actually I don’t care (shrugging smiley)
Unfortunately Drone, inverted snobbery is commonplace these days. Instantly taking a dislike to anyone who’s come from a wealthy background or gone to public school or too posh a voice. Why should it matter?
Whatever background a person comes should be irrelevant, if you’re good enough you should be in.Value Is Everything
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