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    Just when I think this government cannot get any more out of touch.

    Discounts on new homes for care workers on minimum wage during the Pandemic was bad enough – these people can’t afford driving lessons for a car to drive to and from work, let alone a house, but they’ve topped it.

    Mortgages for those on benefits.

    Superb.

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    You’re right Purwell.
    People don’t go on strike for the sake of it.
    People go on strike for more money.

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    #1601411
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    Or better – including safer – working conditions.

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    There are political strikes too ginger and rmts links and support for Putin are hardly a secret

    Striking should always be a last resort. Most unions abide by that. These arseholes strike as a first resort. They refuse to negotiate By any standards that’s crap

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    They want permenant security for jobs that don’t exist. No business should ever have to endure that and nor should any nationalized industry. No question

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    You won’t be getting any letters through the door soon, Clive. ;-)

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    #1601435
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    Meanwhile it was great so see that paragon of virtue Mark Drakeford welcoming the Qatari ambassador in the wake of Wales qualifying for the World Cup. What a duplicitous tool.

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    You say people don’t go on strike for nothing , Rootes had car factory in Linwood in the 60s/70s , they walked out once because the toaster wasn’t working in the canteen….Red Robbo would have been proud

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    Heard all those stories many times, none of them true.

    I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
    I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways
    #1601446
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    It’s annoying when people withdraw a service you depend on, but it’s their right as they are employees, not slaves.

    They are simply using what leverage they have in a profession many depend upon, no different from oil companies raising fuel pump prices when they see the chance to do so.

    Only difference is one bunch are workers and the other lot are capitalists – hence The Daily Mail getting ten times angrier with the workers.

    I see Rishi Sunak has p*ssed £11 BILLION up a wall – that’s the net result of a public school education system that propels idiots from wealthy families into jobs beyond their capabilities.

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    Let’s ban improvements in technology that do away with people’s jobs. :wacko:

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    No doubt the humourless Left will dislike a sketch which suggests that unions are less than heroic proletarians about to usher in a bright new dawn – but there is a sketch having a go at the Evil Tories as well, for a bit of balance:

    #1601473
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    To say that striking and withdrawing services whilst refusing to negotiate that people is the same as a price rise due to the external factors (world oil
    Price as if it has to be explained) epitomises the thick as mince left to a tee

    Perhaps oil companies could perhaps withdraw all
    Supplies pending a demand for the windfall tax to be cancelled? Get it?

    Or the right to stick prices up by 50% because they fancy it?

    #1601475
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    Certain ticket offices do not sell one ticket in a week and yet these non jobs have to be protected

    There aren’t even any compulsory redundancies

    That’s what they are using their “leverage” for.

    I think it’s pretty clear that there is a lot more to this than simply a pay rise

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    ‘The humourless left’, ‘the thick as mince left’.

    If people can’t move beyond nonsensical sweeping generalisations, what’s the point?

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    I’ll take that back richard but the suggestion is that unions can strike to demand just about ANYTHING

    The details of this have to be examined and the more you look the more ludicrous they are

    And businesses in the private sector emphatically do not act in a cartel manner withdrawing supply or services if they don’t get their way

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    In the USA many unions are affiliated to the Republican Party.

    A narrow self-interest group, fighting solely for the rights of its members, is perceived as anything but socialist.

    And rightly so.

    The whole unions = socialism or = this thing called “the left,” a term some clumsily deploy to describe anyone who is to the left of THEM is oversimplifying the dynamics at work here.

    The right to strike is anything but a socialist/”the left” right.

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