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March 30, 2022 at 22:15 #1590433
Iraq under Saddam Hussein saw severe violations of human rights, which were considered to be among the worst in the world. Secret police, state terrorism, torture, mass murder, genocide, ethnic cleansing, rape, deportations, extrajudicial killings, forced disappearances, assassinations, chemical warfare, and the destruction of the Mesopotamian marshes were some of the methods Saddam and the country’s Ba’athist government used to maintain control. The total number of deaths and disappearances related to repression during this period is unknown, but is estimated to be at least 250,000 to 290,000 according to Human Rights Watch,[1] with the great majority of those occurring as a result of the Anfal genocide in 1988 and the suppression of the uprisings in Iraq in 1991. Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International issued regular reports of widespread imprisonment and torture.
March 31, 2022 at 01:12 #1590450Moe very wise words
and it got a lot worse
when they tore his statue down !March 31, 2022 at 01:27 #1590452I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysMarch 31, 2022 at 05:19 #1590460Another weak performance by Starmer yesterday, I thought.
March 31, 2022 at 19:12 #1590518“Iraq under Saddam Hussein saw severe violations of human rights, which were considered to be among the worst in the world. Secret police, state terrorism, torture, mass murder, genocide, ethnic cleansing, rape, deportations, extrajudicial killings, forced disappearances, assassinations, chemical warfare, and the destruction of the Mesopotamian marshes were some of the methods Saddam and the country’s Ba’athist government used to maintain control. The total number of deaths and disappearances related to repression during this period is unknown, but is estimated to be at least 250,000 to 290,000 according to Human Rights Watch,[1] with the great majority of those occurring as a result of the Anfal genocide in 1988 and the suppression of the uprisings in Iraq in 1991. Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International issued regular reports of widespread imprisonment and torture”.
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All true Moe… And if Blair had used that and only that to encourage MPs to vote for war there’d be no problem. But Blair lied, by exaggerating Saddam’s known capabilities. No WMD was found.
Value Is EverythingApril 1, 2022 at 10:23 #1590588I was ignoring Sunaks wife connections but having looked closer, that was wrong
Infosys are one of the very few consultancies still profiting in Russia and she’s doing so still
Not good enough. He’s going to have to live with this
Johnson is extraordinarily lucky. To my mind sunak was the best alternative by a distance but he’s demonstrating his political tin ear over and over
As for kier. He’s just fine imo. I like him and a public sick of “personalities” could easily vote him in.
And his war on the idiot far left is being handled superbly.
April 2, 2022 at 15:02 #1590807Bloomin’ heck clivexx. Carry on like this and you and I will be besties! Could do with you defending me against the Corbynites on Facebook!
April 2, 2022 at 15:28 #1590810People need to realise it’s not just Boris they need to get rid of ……
April 2, 2022 at 17:50 #1590834Moe. Like most extremists, its pointless engaging with them but just tell them that you’re Jewish and their heads will quickly explode
I would be comfortable with kier as pm right now and in the future. The country is waiting for calm competent leadership
April 2, 2022 at 17:53 #1590836Starmer, competent? He cannot even tell us what a woman is.
April 2, 2022 at 18:04 #1590839Keir Starmer exudes honesty and decency and anyone who regards him as being part of this thing called “the left” really must be so right wing they have lost all sense of proportion.
Election results in my lifetime make it manifestly obvious the UK is Conservative with a small “c,” will usually elect the Tories but, faced with a Tory PM they do not trust will consider Labour if it’s leader is moderate (Harold Wilson and Tony Blair ticked that box).
We are facing a cost of living crisis and, though the Ukraine War seemed at first likely to save Johnson after early Pandemic mistakes then Partygate in particular rendered him vulnerable, this attack on working people’s pockets might just nail Johnson.
That said, it’s still only 2022 and a lot can happen in two years and eight months.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"April 2, 2022 at 23:07 #1590903Starmer is not as left as some previous Labour leaders, but not being part of “the left” at all?
Let’s not forget he went into the last election as part of the most extreme left shadow cabinet Britain has ever seen. Willing to work in what would have been a neo-communist, Putin loving government under Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott, Burgon and Butler.
Why would someone not at all part of “the left” do that?Is Starmer left wing?
Or a power hungry idiot?Value Is EverythingApril 2, 2022 at 23:15 #1590904Neo-Communist ffs! Behave yourself GT or I’ll put you in the corner.
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April 2, 2022 at 23:16 #1590905“Is Starmer left wing?
Or a power hungry idiot?”Sorry, but IMO that’s jaundiced nonsense.
There will be Tory MPs who loathe and despise Johnson, but remaining in parliament in the hope they get rid of him one day doesn’t make them “power hungry idiots.”
It makes them pragmatists.
I expect to read this kind of thing in The Daily Mail, but not here.
Like Blair in the 1990s, Starmer is systematically purging his Party of everything that hitherto made it unelectable.
And I’m 100% with TTC about “neo-communist” – that says a lot more about how right wing you are, GT, than it does about how left wing Starmer manifestly isn’t.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"April 2, 2022 at 23:32 #1590908Aye, quite right. I am still furious with Labours previous GE Manifesto, both ignoring democracy and allowing Johnson and his sniggering cronies to run riot with the ‘hot-topic’ Brexit angle.
Absolute rank stupidity and a complete lack of reading a room / political savvy, leaving me lumbered with a bloody tory MP in a thoroughly working class industrial Labour town.
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April 2, 2022 at 23:42 #1590914“Like Blair in the 1990s, Starmer is systematically purging his Party of everything that hitherto made it unelectable”.
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Exactly, doing stuff he needs to do in order to make Labour electable… And good on him for doing it. But how does that make him not part of “the left”?
Value Is EverythingApril 2, 2022 at 23:49 #1590917Do you two not know Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott and co’s history?
Not only what the centre-left say about them but also what they’ve said themselves and about themselves.Value Is Everything -
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