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  • #1580849
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    Don’t know how I missed the ‘vaccination roll-out” mantra; maybe because the % vaccinated is higher just across the border from me, so the boast makes no sense

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    Oh do piss off george and stop fantisising

    You are accusing her of doing a chakerabati with no evidence whatsoever and that’s disgusting

    If you really had worked as you say (which I dont beliebe) you will know that not everyone is corrupt

    Time waster

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    It WAS a slut because you made the clear implication she was doing it for honours

    That’s slander

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    Moe

    That Jimmy saville comment by the stupid lump said everything about him. It’s not worth the time of day

    I believe the public shift to kier is embedded now and he is the right man to lead the country

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    Worth remembering that sur gray rose to the top from a humble background and no privileged education. Not even university I believe?

    A woman too. Disgraceful

    Can imagine more than a few mediocre entilited civil service oxbridge twats really hating that

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    Clivexx

    Can you read?

    I made no implication that she did what she did for honours. I wrote that, given my and many other people’s assessment of Boris, it would be no surprise if he had sought to influence both Dick and Gray.

    The more one thinks about it, the more difficult it is to understand Gray’s decision (though it is of course possible that she delivered two reports to the PM, her completed one and the one modified to meet the Met’s concerns. I doubt that, because if she had, it would have become known, but it remains a possibility).

    If indeed Gray has only submitted the interim report she has (a) failed in her assigned task, by not reporting what she has learnt even though it is clear she finished her inquiries, and (b) chosen an option which has had the effect of pushing the matter further down the road, maybe, according to the Met., for as long as a year. Cut it whichever way you like, (b) was essentially a political judgement and not the proper fulfilment of her assigned task.

    Only she knows for sure why she decided on (b). For the rest of us it is a matter of conjecture. You don’t like mine (which was not put forward as definitive, based on evidence, but as a possibility based on experience). Fair enough. But it remains a possibility whether you think it plausible or not.

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    I can read and its clear that you are somewhat obsessed with her and her “motivations”

    You clearly implied that it was for honours.

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    On 8th December 2021, the prime minister stood up in the House of Commons and told Parliament, and the watching millions, that there had been no party in his private flat in Downing Street on 13th November 2020.

    Sue Gray’s report says that the party on 13th November 2020 did take place.

    So one of them is lying. Is that likely to be the (as we were constantly assured by all) meticulous and steadfast Mrs Gray or the (as we all know) chancer and rogue Mr Johnson?

    Answers on a postcard to the usual address.

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    He misled parliament and he has to go.We all heard him say it. And yet it’s Ian Blackford that had to leave parliament yesterday for telling the truth. There’s something wrong somewhere.

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    To be fair, the rule is there for a purpose. if there was a rule that said MP’s could accuse other MPs of lying; then every time an MP stood up he / she would be accusing the other side of lying.

    Blackford knew he was going to be thrown out.
    He’s done it before, he’ll do it again.
    All done just to put on a show.
    I’ve heard he and Bo Jo get on really well outside the confines of Parliament.
    Not surprised, they both act like school boys wanting to be naughty.

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    Condemnation about Johnson’s Starmer comments from fellow MP’s I believe and some sort of apology/explanation from Hoyle in parliament today which, imo, didn’t go far enough. I’ve had a reply from my MP today about the parties and, reading between the lines she’s saying now is not the right time to have a leadership election. But she didn’t seem to be supporting him in the way she usually does. Fair play to MP’s like Aaron Bell who, yet again criticised the PM. Tony Benn told me he got on well with Margaret Thatcher but it still doesn’t change my opinion of someone that seemed hell bent on ruining my families life at the time. I very much doubt that opposition MP’s in general have any respect for the PM.

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    “Tony Benn told me he got on well with Margaret Thatcher but it still doesn’t change my opinion of someone that seemed hell bent on ruining my families life at the time”.

    Your name isn’t Mrs Galtieri?

    Otherwise, why would Mrs T have been hell bent on ruining your family?

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    Because we spent each month terrified that my husband was going to have a redundancy notice in his pay packet. Remember Tebbit and his ‘get on our bike’ statement. Families all over the country were going through it. You may find it amusing but, at the time as a young mother it was very stressful. My husband was always looking for work in other parts of the country in case he lost his job.

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    ‘get on our bike’

    I just love the little country lane tandems.

    #1581020
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    Just because someone uses black humour, doesn’t mean he / she does not care, Moehat.
    My grandmother had alzheimers for over 20 years. When finding slippers in the oven, if we hadn’t laughed we’d cry.
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    What job was your husband in?

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    Your grandmas slippers have no relevance at all.
    Thatcher destroyed lots of peoples lives, maybe you are too young to realise that.
    She also destroyed the engineering industry of this country which had been our backbone for many years.

    I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
    I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways
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    He was an engineer. Now one of the leading engineers in his field but, back then, just starting out. My partners father was head of an institution that I’d rather not say the name of, but he knew what Thatchers government had planned. He had a particularly unpleasant set to with the Chancellor at the time. Died before he was due to retire and Mike is convinced it was the stress of what was happening that caused it as he had to keep it all to himself. Then there’s the miners strike. Some families in those areas are still split because of that time I believe. Tebbit wasn’t using black humour. He meant it. We all knew knew we would have to move our families to where there was a job. They’re doing the same now saying after a month of unemployment you have to take any job regardless of it’s suitability.

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