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A blatant “Rejoin” agenda won’t win back the former “Red Wall” up North for Labour.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"No point in trying to re-join, the damage has been done.
This country has lost all credibility with the international community.
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I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysI voted Remain but, what a lot of fellow Remain voters just don’t get, is that most Leave voters understand that the UK is worse off outside the EU, but still want us out anyway.
Whether it’s the Leave vote itself, further effective referenda on the subject at European and General Elections, the consistent message is the majority still want us out regardless.
Starmer won’t win back the North by going down any sort of Rejoin route – it’s totally illogical, but we just have to make the best of being out.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I voted Remain and even (in my way) “campaigned” for Remain on here. But have since changed my mind and am glad we’ve left the EU. Yes, we may not quite be as rich as a country than we would’ve been; but it’s a price worth paying – at least for Britain if not the UK.
Starmer won’t fight an election on rejoining, but may well – if winning – want to re-negotiate a “brexit”; so it is no longer recognisable as what the country voted for. Which the EU would love because we’d have to follow what the EU does so closely without having a say and without being able to do our own trade deals. Indeed, a weak brexit will be the worst of all options for us. Worse than what we have now, worse than a so called hard brexit and worse than totally rejoining the EU… But that may be Starmer’s plan. Make it seem as though Brexit doesn’t work so he can call another referendum.
Value Is EverythingIan Davies said.
I voted Remain but, what a lot of fellow Remain voters just don’t get, is that most Leave voters understand that the UK is worse off outside the EU, but still want us out anyway.
I think you are giving them credit they don’t deserve.
They have not realised that the UK will be worse off.I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysBoris should imo resign. But do think the media is probably wrong in making out these parties are exactly the same as people not being able to visit relatives in nursing homes or dying relatives in hospital, or visiting elderly relatives at home or going to a funeral. Although of course can understand all the above’s frustration and justified anger.
Although imo it did break the rules. If those at these parties were working at Number 10 anyway then these households were generally already mixing at work. It does not bring different households together in the same way. Presumably nor were People at these parties particularly vulnerable either.
Value Is Everything“Credit they don’t deserve” Purwell?
Hope you’re not saying all brexiteers were thick and only remainers knew what they were voting for?
Value Is EverythingYou’re all probably in bed by now but I need to get this off my chest… Watching the BBC News press preview (tomorrow’s headlines) and they’re trying to blame the cost of living crisis on Russia. No- it’s down to suppressed wages in this country, where shareholders’ dividends are more important than wages. Really gets on my (reduced lately) tits. 😡
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“Credit they don’t deserve” Purwell?
Hope you’re not saying all brexiteers were thick and only remainers knew what they were voting for?A significant proportion of them certainly did not realise what they were voting for.
Please don’t spin my words to suit your agenda.I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysEveryone who voted for Brexit knew exactly what they were voting for (and had limited knowledge of grammar, as well).
If you are in any doubt, watch all the BBC and Sky News programmes of the time.
The sudden rise in worldwide commodity prices is most certainly not down to shareholders and wages have been rising fast
Jesus the left really dont get economics
Given the limp wristed confused rather pathetic eu response to Russia many of ha are delighted that we are not going to be suckes into their planned dysfunctional super state
And Germany are a disgrace
“Jesus the left really dont get economics.”
Let’s shut down the world’s economy for two years and print lots of money at the same time.
What do you mean, it causes inflation? How were we supposed to know?
Never mind, inflation only really affects those poor people we pretend to care about. So that’s all right.
In truth we were “printing money” year after year post 2008 and there was zero effect on inflation. Inflation this time is almost certainly driven by other factors. There is often too much squeamishness about government borrowing. If we hadn’t done so over the past 100 years, we would have an extremely backward economy. Borrowing is just serviceable debt for investment and at very low rates currently.
Boris is so strange. Is it a self destructive streak?
he should be bathing in credit for facing down the incompetents at SAGE (who must now be fired off) and not taking the “I will control you because I can” mentality of Drakeford Sturgeon and the now laughable Jacinda
interesting to wonder whats going through their minds now. Jacinda is ramping things up with a pol pot enthusiasm and is probably mentally unwell, but Drakeford, as a genuine authoritarian, has now been forced to relinquish his last opportunity to bully and control a (surpisingly) timid populations lives
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